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ULMW · 05-06-2017, 05:52 AM

Terpene, Thanks for the great growing photo updates on the Ethiopian crosses. All doing so well. Happy growing!

Claude Hopper · 05-06-2017, 09:06 AM

Terpene,

That Alien plant is beautiful!

The screw in LED side looks to be getting quite a bit more light - if that 240 watt Blackstar is only using about 120 watts. Can you squeeze in another screw in or 2 or drop that Blackstar a few inches?

I kept some Golden Tigers pretty compact under a close Blackstar 180 (90 watts draw)

Terpene · 05-12-2017, 04:45 AM

The Mauritius x Ethiopian stretches A LOT in flower! All of my lights are now hung at ceiling height in an attempt to keep up with the plants. Call this an accidental test of the effective depth of screw in LED lighting. 2m tall Mauritius x Ethiopian @ 3.5 weeks (left), Zamaldelica x Ethiopian @ 10.5 weeks (right):

Mauritius x Ethiopian flower detail shot, 3.5 weeks:

Mango citric Zamaldelica leaning Zamaldelica x Ethiopian bud detail at 10.5 weeks:

Things have moved around a bit, the tallest plants share the screw in panel and the "squatter" Zamaldelica x Ethiopians are sharing the Blackstar 240w. The screw in LEDs are running circles around the Blackstar in terms of bud size, so I want to see if the spindly plants plump up the same way the topped Zamaldelica x Ethiopian has. You can really see the difference in bud density between the runty pheno (front) and its 60/40 ethiopian leaning sister (rear) who spent the last 3 weeks under the screw ins:

60/40 Ethiopian leaning Zamaldelica x Ethiopian bud detail shot, 9.5 weeks:

Claude Hopper · 05-12-2017, 05:27 AM

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Call this an accidental test of the effective depth of screw in LED lighting.

You have done very well with them. If you decide they need more light lower down then all it takes is a few bulbs hung lower.

Terpene · 05-22-2017, 09:54 PM

Mauritius x Ethiopian @ 5 weeks. I think we're just about done stretching, so this may work out after all. The plant has been stacking with little difference in bud density up to about 30-36" off the bulbs:

Flower detail:

The Zamaldelica x Ethiopians are still pushing pistils despite being between 11-12 weeks.
The tall and spindly untopped mango carrot zamal leaning pheno has thickened up quite a bit since being moved under the screw ins:

As I assumed would happen, the untopped pheno has slowed in development under the Blackstar. Its probably time to retire the expensive panel in favor of little bulbs.

The runty pheno has been my "control" for the LED test, it continues to stack but pales in comparison on output:

Terpene · 05-24-2017, 10:20 PM

After finding a few seeds on the floor underneath the untopped mango-citric zamaldelica x ethiopian, I decided that it was time to clip off the branches that were pollinated with the lemony and very ethiopian leaning zamaldelica x ethiopian male.

Old Toker · 05-24-2017, 10:57 PM

Beautiful! Perfect timing.

Terpene · 05-30-2017, 06:10 AM

As usual, Dubi is right.

I thought you couldn't get more positive / happy effects than Honduran, I was wrong - especially if you're looking for a little extra pep. Zamaldelica x Ethiopian has similar effects as Honduras, you're happy and appreciative of everything around you - people, music, plants, animals, and so on. However, Zamaldelica x Ethiopian is clearer, more energetic / electric and generally more intense experience overall. To put it another way, Honduras is more laid back, classic rock and roll whereas Zamaldelica x Ethiopian is its Ibiza club-going cousin.

The uncured, seeded branches of the mango citric zamaldelica leaning Zamaldelica x Ethiopian are pretty decent smoke. The ethiopian influence changes the spindly, scary-trippy zamaldelica's electric and sometimes overwhelming effect by making it a warmer and more positive somewhat psychedelic experience.

I also took down one of the topped, ethiopian leaning Zamaldelica x Ethiopian branches at the 11 week mark. The smoke is AWESOME. Its happy, giggly, laughter inducing, positive, clear, electric, energetic semi-psychedelic and can be somewhat overwhelming / psychedelic in large doses(colors become more intense, minor visual distortion, etc) Even though its partially wet, it has a delicious mango-lemon-cream pie taste and smell.

dubi · 05-30-2017, 11:45 AM

Hi terpene friend

Congrats on the harvest! Thank you very much for sharing your growing experience about the new Zamaldelica x Ethiopian hybrid.

This new pure sativa hybrid has the compact and manageable structure and shorter flowering time of the Zamaldelica mango carrot elite mother, but with a more explosive kind of flowering thanks to the ethiopian influence. I'm glad to see the ethiopian didn't make the hybrid too lanky, something that could frequently happen with pure ethiopians or with more ethiopian dominant hybrids in the structure.

The positive, energetic and clear effect is what i was mainly looking for in this mostly african sativa poly hybrid. Glad you found the effect more complex and with even better sativa qualities than pure Honduras. That's a really good sign based on your previous positive experience with pure Honduras

mushulatubbee · 05-30-2017, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Terpene

Mauritius x Ethiopian @ 5 weeks. I think we're just about done stretching, so this may work out after all. The plant has been stacking with little difference in bud density up to about 30-36" off the bulbs:
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Flower detail:
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The Zamaldelica x Ethiopians are still pushing pistils despite being between 11-12 weeks.
The tall and spindly untopped mango carrot zamal leaning pheno has thickened up quite a bit since being moved under the screw ins:
View Image

As I assumed would happen, the untopped pheno has slowed in development under the Blackstar. Its probably time to retire the expensive panel in favor of little bulbs.
View Image

The runty pheno has been my "control" for the LED test, it continues to stack but pales in comparison on output:
View Image

May i inquire why they curl on the fans like that? Is it a direct result of natural dieoff? Cause its kool to watch vicariously through your photos!i

05-06-2017, 09:06 AM	#132
Claude Hopper Old Skool Rulz Join Date: May 2009 Location: Somewhere in middle america Posts: 1,468	Terpene, That Alien plant is beautiful! The screw in LED side looks to be getting quite a bit more light - if that 240 watt Blackstar is only using about 120 watts. Can you squeeze in another screw in or 2 or drop that Blackstar a few inches? I kept some Golden Tigers pretty compact under a close Blackstar 180 (90 watts draw) __________________ ______________________________ _____________ Ace is the Place Old Grows:Hybrids From Hell Hashplant and Hashplant2 2. Vertigo & Pandora
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05-12-2017, 04:45 AM	#133
Terpene I love the smell of cannabis in the morning Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: 32N Posts: 1,338	The Mauritius x Ethiopian stretches A LOT in flower! All of my lights are now hung at ceiling height in an attempt to keep up with the plants. Call this an accidental test of the effective depth of screw in LED lighting. 2m tall Mauritius x Ethiopian @ 3.5 weeks (left), Zamaldelica x Ethiopian @ 10.5 weeks (right): Mauritius x Ethiopian flower detail shot, 3.5 weeks: Mango citric Zamaldelica leaning Zamaldelica x Ethiopian bud detail at 10.5 weeks: Things have moved around a bit, the tallest plants share the screw in panel and the "squatter" Zamaldelica x Ethiopians are sharing the Blackstar 240w. The screw in LEDs are running circles around the Blackstar in terms of bud size, so I want to see if the spindly plants plump up the same way the topped Zamaldelica x Ethiopian has. You can really see the difference in bud density between the runty pheno (front) and its 60/40 ethiopian leaning sister (rear) who spent the last 3 weeks under the screw ins: 60/40 Ethiopian leaning Zamaldelica x Ethiopian bud detail shot, 9.5 weeks: __________________ “Make the most you can of the Indian hemp seed and sow it everywhere.” – George Washington "Some of my finest hours have been spent on my back veranda, smoking hemp and observing as far as my eye can see." - Thomas Jefferson "Two of my favorite things are sitting on my front porch smoking a pipe of sweet hemp, and playing my Hohner harmonica.” – Abraham Lincoln
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05-22-2017, 09:54 PM	#135
Terpene I love the smell of cannabis in the morning Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: 32N Posts: 1,338	Mauritius x Ethiopian @ 5 weeks. I think we're just about done stretching, so this may work out after all. The plant has been stacking with little difference in bud density up to about 30-36" off the bulbs: Flower detail: The Zamaldelica x Ethiopians are still pushing pistils despite being between 11-12 weeks. The tall and spindly untopped mango carrot zamal leaning pheno has thickened up quite a bit since being moved under the screw ins: As I assumed would happen, the untopped pheno has slowed in development under the Blackstar. Its probably time to retire the expensive panel in favor of little bulbs. The runty pheno has been my "control" for the LED test, it continues to stack but pales in comparison on output: __________________ “Make the most you can of the Indian hemp seed and sow it everywhere.” – George Washington "Some of my finest hours have been spent on my back veranda, smoking hemp and observing as far as my eye can see." - Thomas Jefferson "Two of my favorite things are sitting on my front porch smoking a pipe of sweet hemp, and playing my Hohner harmonica.” – Abraham Lincoln
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05-24-2017, 10:20 PM	#136
Terpene I love the smell of cannabis in the morning Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: 32N Posts: 1,338	After finding a few seeds on the floor underneath the untopped mango-citric zamaldelica x ethiopian, I decided that it was time to clip off the branches that were pollinated with the lemony and very ethiopian leaning zamaldelica x ethiopian male. __________________ “Make the most you can of the Indian hemp seed and sow it everywhere.” – George Washington "Some of my finest hours have been spent on my back veranda, smoking hemp and observing as far as my eye can see." - Thomas Jefferson "Two of my favorite things are sitting on my front porch smoking a pipe of sweet hemp, and playing my Hohner harmonica.” – Abraham Lincoln
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05-24-2017, 10:57 PM	#137
Old Toker Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Deep South USA Posts: 910	Beautiful! Perfect timing. __________________ I prefer not to think before responding. I like being just as surprised as everyone else by what ends up on the screen.
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05-06-2017, 05:52 AM	#131
ULMW Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 1,118	Terpene, Thanks for the great growing photo updates on the Ethiopian crosses. All doing so well. Happy growing!
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05-30-2017, 06:10 AM	#138
Terpene I love the smell of cannabis in the morning Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: 32N Posts: 1,338	As usual, Dubi is right. I thought you couldn't get more positive / happy effects than Honduran, I was wrong - especially if you're looking for a little extra pep. Zamaldelica x Ethiopian has similar effects as Honduras, you're happy and appreciative of everything around you - people, music, plants, animals, and so on. However, Zamaldelica x Ethiopian is clearer, more energetic / electric and generally more intense experience overall. To put it another way, Honduras is more laid back, classic rock and roll whereas Zamaldelica x Ethiopian is its Ibiza club-going cousin. The uncured, seeded branches of the mango citric zamaldelica leaning Zamaldelica x Ethiopian are pretty decent smoke. The ethiopian influence changes the spindly, scary-trippy zamaldelica's electric and sometimes overwhelming effect by making it a warmer and more positive somewhat psychedelic experience. I also took down one of the topped, ethiopian leaning Zamaldelica x Ethiopian branches at the 11 week mark. The smoke is AWESOME. Its happy, giggly, laughter inducing, positive, clear, electric, energetic semi-psychedelic and can be somewhat overwhelming / psychedelic in large doses(colors become more intense, minor visual distortion, etc) Even though its partially wet, it has a delicious mango-lemon-cream pie taste and smell. __________________ “Make the most you can of the Indian hemp seed and sow it everywhere.” – George Washington "Some of my finest hours have been spent on my back veranda, smoking hemp and observing as far as my eye can see." - Thomas Jefferson "Two of my favorite things are sitting on my front porch smoking a pipe of sweet hemp, and playing my Hohner harmonica.” – Abraham Lincoln
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05-30-2017, 11:45 AM	#139
dubi Vendor Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,891	Hi terpene friend Congrats on the harvest! Thank you very much for sharing your growing experience about the new Zamaldelica x Ethiopian hybrid. This new pure sativa hybrid has the compact and manageable structure and shorter flowering time of the Zamaldelica mango carrot elite mother, but with a more explosive kind of flowering thanks to the ethiopian influence. I'm glad to see the ethiopian didn't make the hybrid too lanky, something that could frequently happen with pure ethiopians or with more ethiopian dominant hybrids in the structure. The positive, energetic and clear effect is what i was mainly looking for in this mostly african sativa poly hybrid. Glad you found the effect more complex and with even better sativa qualities than pure Honduras. That's a really good sign based on your previous positive experience with pure Honduras
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