wide containers, low ceiling.

chronosync · Nov 19, 2015

i notice most people using standard nursery size pots and buckets for their plants, containers that are about as wide as they are tall or taller. this makes sense given the natural shape of the plant and how cannabis likes to grow vertical.

anyone have any thoughts on using containers that are wide and low to the ground? i saw some storage totes that are 25q (6.5 gallons) three of them would fit great inside a 2'x4' tent that i have.

they are only 7.5 inches tall. 20 long. 15.5 wide.

using something like this would more than double my soil volume without losing any precious vertical space, my tent is only 5' tall, and im growing with 400w HID.

then again i could just raise a mother and do endless SOG in small buckets....... IDK. first world problems....
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HerBnGorE(illa) · Nov 19, 2015

Chrono. I don't have any "first world" experience, but the shallow root setup seems to work in flood and drain tables, so I figure it would be ok.

The one drawback I see is getting the soil uniformly moist when watering/feeding. Also the larger surface area will allow evaporation a lot quicker so u may conside some mulch or something to combat that.

Either way, let us know how it goes!

chronosync · Nov 19, 2015

thanks man. i bet coco would be the best for this. straight coarse coco.

Phaeton · Nov 19, 2015

Correct on the media volume making a difference. Most indoor strains like a pot about eight inches deep. Deeper poss do not make efficient use of media past that depth.
Five gallon buckets commonly used are about four inches too tall and the roots reach the 8" mark.
Three and a half gallon buckets are the same diameter but closer to eight inches deep and grow identical size plants as the five gallon buckets.

Personally I use eighteen inch diameter totes cut down to ten inches high. The top two inches are covered in Perlite and the plant is watered only to the bottom of the Perlite, this keeps bugs from laying eggs and messing with the roots.
Eighteen inch diameter allows three plants to share the container as long as they are clones from the same mother.
This fools them into thinking they have the whole pot to themselves and growth is improved over the smaller buckets.

Rockwool croutons are the media I like, but coco or other fast drain media should work just as well.

chronosync · Nov 19, 2015

thanks alot!

awesome that you showed us the difference between rockwool and perlite, it looks to me that the roots like the rockwool a lot better

good to know.

THIS is very interesting too:
"This fools them into thinking they have the whole pot to themselves and growth is improved over the smaller buckets,"

ive been told that plants compete in the same container, i guess it would make sense that if they are genetically identical each cut would have no way to tell the difference between itself or competition. sounds good. thanks for the info

stoned-trout · Nov 19, 2015

I have done it..worked ok....yeehaw..this was only one of many trays used..i used up to 9 per tent.....I don't think they are even that tall 7.5 .. I will measure one if ya want...sterilite trays from Walmart...good yield for what it is....grown in soil

chronosync · Nov 19, 2015

no need to measure, thanks tho!

so what did you think? good idea, nice try? did you see any benefits? drawbacks?

clearly it worked pretty good

stoned-trout · Nov 19, 2015

no complaints..worked like a charm.....yeehaw..made watering easier once I figured out how much per tray...way better than watering individual grow bags...and the small grow bags would tip over now and then...it went like dominos ,,one would fall hit the next and so on...the trays solved that issue...where there is a will, there is a way...

chronosync · Nov 19, 2015

right on man. knocking everything over all the time sounds like a bitch. that would tick me off. what strain is that?

sorry for the double post BTW. i have no idea why that happened.

stoned-trout · Nov 19, 2015

I am not exactly sure but I think that tray was pot of gold from flying Dutchman....a few of the strains I ran looked alike....yeehaw

Extacie · Nov 24, 2015

Cannabis likes to grow deep root systems but wide containers work great to the way to go indoors imo, save that vertical space like you said. Especially if using larger containers indoors Best of luck

Purple Jungle · Dec 4, 2015

I am in the same boat as op as I am thinking of growing on two levels in a 2.3m room and a bit wider and shorter containers is my plan.

Phaeton said:
Eighteen inch diameter allows three plants to share the container as long as they are clones from the same mother.
This fools them into thinking they have the whole pot to themselves and growth is improved over the smaller buckets.

Thanks for that piece of info!

wolfhoundaddy · Dec 4, 2015

High Times just posted an article about growing this way.

Purple Jungle · Dec 4, 2015

http://www.hightimes.com/read/maximizing-your-medicine-how-yield-more-out-small-gardens

DemonTrich · Dec 4, 2015

I grow in short/fat pots, 4.7gal plastic pot. been using these for 4+yrs now. would like to find a slightly larger (short/fat) plastic pot around a 5.5-6.5gal size to see if I can yield more.

chronosync · Dec 4, 2015

try the sterilite 25 quart. thats 6.5gal and only 7.5" tall

DemonTrich · Dec 4, 2015

What drip tray would fit under that? And I'd need 16 to run in my my flower room

LostTribe · Dec 6, 2015

dont forget you also have the option to lst train them and tie them down do they dont get too tall.

chronosync · Dec 6, 2015

gonna do both!

@DemonTrich i have no idea about hydro setups. first grow in coco here.

just fired up the HPS today!

!

jesbuds · Dec 6, 2015

Love me the Rubbermaid roughneck tubs, very durable, mod-able and use the tops as drip trays. More limited in sizes but great tubs, generally get them at Home Depot/Lowes.

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