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Dr.Feelgood · 07-13-2006, 03:10 AM

Were things "this bad" back in the 60's, 70's, and 80's?

I'm not very old, so I only remember the 90's being a very progressive and relatively peaceful time. Now we have Israel invading Gaza & Lebanon, the USA in Iraq, Iran trying to enrich more & more uranium, genocide in Africa, North Korea developing very long-range nuclear-capable missiles, the USA economy is for $hit, the USA government seems to be headed straight towards fascism (if it isn't there already), USA healthcare is for $hit, poverty is up, corporate executive wages are WAY up, our (Americans) civil rights are being trampled, etc, etc, etc

Have things always been this bad? Because it seems as though Rome is falling; corporatism seems to have taken its toll.

Thanks!

07-13-2006, 04:48 AM

^^^^Take two Wellbutrine and call me in the morning.

07-13-2006, 06:00 AM

Well yes;Began- Israel, Regan/Marines/Iran, Pallistine, Lebanon, North Korea, Russia, China all 70-80 problems.
Yes, we just have more media now.
Peace I hope
MOD

Dr.Feelgood · 07-13-2006, 07:08 AM

haha

I think you guys may have the wrong impression. It's just tough to get a good perspective on the severity of current problems compared to past problems when you've only lived through X amount of years.

I suppose one thought I've been having is that things such as the Civil Rights Act and FISA were made law in the past. Yet now we have a bunch of clowns trying to amend the constitution to their liking and violating the parts they do not like. In the past, America had a large roll in positive international law decisions. Now the USA violates international law as it pleases.

Do you see what I mean? Am I missing something or have things changed quite a bit? And isn't there some point at which, after all your past sins come home to roost, the country might reach some type of constitutional/economic/political tipping point? It has happened in the past to other countries.

Maybe it sounds as though I need some Midol.

But I'm just trying to possibly glean some insight from all of the old wise stoners who's pasts were (hopefully) not lost in all the bong smoke.

P.S. I don't watch tv. I'd say that my exposure to the traditional media is very limited.

minds_I · 07-13-2006, 08:17 AM

bUAHAHAHAA

Cuba has nuclear missles

Early 1960's abd before -civil rights are being trampled
1967

The US is in Viet Nam.

Isreal invades the gaza strip during the Six Days war.

Early 1970's
The US economy is for shit.
The Us government is heading for facism.
US health care is for shit.

Buahahahaha. pretty much the status quo.

Same shit- differnt day!

minds_I

Verite · 07-13-2006, 07:21 PM

Its all what you make it. Problems that didnt impact my ability to party and have a good time seldom dwindled in my mind, unless we were at a good party high outta our gourds talking about it. But seeing how 75% of all our conversations consisted of what happened on last weeks Charlies Angels episode world politics didnt get much airplay.

motaco · 07-13-2006, 09:01 PM

I wasn't there either but they've always had this kinda shit.

the dust bowl. depression, prohibition, WW2, cuba missle crisis, vietnam, the draft, etc. etc.

DoctorSax · 07-13-2006, 11:08 PM

I think you have a point Dr.Feelgood, the world is different today. In some ways, it is the same problems in a different time, but never before in history have humans come to this point. Modern life now has the capacity to effect the world on a huge scale, and its getting out of control in some areas. We need to start thinking about the consequences of the lifestyle, the politics, the mindset that is the 21st century.

07-15-2006, 09:29 AM

We seem to be missing the anti-war protest marches of the 60's & early 70's.
I think if the guys in Iraq were there as a result of a draft (in the US) things might be different.

Bh

07-15-2006, 08:02 PM

With all these STD's these days not many people are coining the phase "Make Love not War."
And Woodstock. Wouldn't it be great to get that many people together again to party and show love to one another? No violence at all. This world has too much violence in it today. We should give All the world leaders a joint or blunt and tell them to chill the fuck out.

07-13-2006, 03:10 AM	#1
Dr.Feelgood Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia Posts: 388	A question for the older tokers Were things "this bad" back in the 60's, 70's, and 80's? I'm not very old, so I only remember the 90's being a very progressive and relatively peaceful time. Now we have Israel invading Gaza & Lebanon, the USA in Iraq, Iran trying to enrich more & more uranium, genocide in Africa, North Korea developing very long-range nuclear-capable missiles, the USA economy is for $hit, the USA government seems to be headed straight towards fascism (if it isn't there already), USA healthcare is for $hit, poverty is up, corporate executive wages are WAY up, our (Americans) civil rights are being trampled, etc, etc, etc Have things always been this bad? Because it seems as though Rome is falling; corporatism seems to have taken its toll. Thanks!
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Guest Guest Posts: n/a	^^^^Take two Wellbutrine and call me in the morning.
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Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Well yes;Began- Israel, Regan/Marines/Iran, Pallistine, Lebanon, North Korea, Russia, China all 70-80 problems. Yes, we just have more media now. Peace I hope MOD
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Dr.Feelgood Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia Posts: 388	haha I think you guys may have the wrong impression. It's just tough to get a good perspective on the severity of current problems compared to past problems when you've only lived through X amount of years. I suppose one thought I've been having is that things such as the Civil Rights Act and FISA were made law in the past. Yet now we have a bunch of clowns trying to amend the constitution to their liking and violating the parts they do not like. In the past, America had a large roll in positive international law decisions. Now the USA violates international law as it pleases. Do you see what I mean? Am I missing something or have things changed quite a bit? And isn't there some point at which, after all your past sins come home to roost, the country might reach some type of constitutional/economic/political tipping point? It has happened in the past to other countries. Maybe it sounds as though I need some Midol. But I'm just trying to possibly glean some insight from all of the old wise stoners who's pasts were (hopefully) not lost in all the bong smoke. P.S. I don't watch tv. I'd say that my exposure to the traditional media is very limited. Last edited by Dr.Feelgood; 07-13-2006 at 07:11 AM..
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minds_I The Emperor is not only naked but batshit crazy. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Norcal USA Posts: 5,269	bUAHAHAHAA Cuba has nuclear missles Early 1960's abd before -civil rights are being trampled 1967 The US is in Viet Nam. Isreal invades the gaza strip during the Six Days war. Early 1970's The US economy is for shit. The Us government is heading for facism. US health care is for shit. Buahahahaha. pretty much the status quo. Same shit- differnt day! minds_I __________________ His contempt for objective truth is the rejection of democratic accountability, an implicit demand that his supporters place undying faith in him. Because the only measure of truth he accepts is what he claims at any given moment, the power his supporters vest in him is unlimited. Sound familiar? If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures. In the United States, under our Constitution, a free press is a check on politicians of all parties. If we are to demand that other countries respect the tradition of a free press we must also practice that here at home. Let the people know the facts, and the country will be safe.
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Verite My little pony.. my little pony Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,750	Its all what you make it. Problems that didnt impact my ability to party and have a good time seldom dwindled in my mind, unless we were at a good party high outta our gourds talking about it. But seeing how 75% of all our conversations consisted of what happened on last weeks Charlies Angels episode world politics didnt get much airplay. __________________ Strains by Verite .......................... Holy Grail Intro, Seeds at Seebay, Private Breeders Orange Diesel Intro, Seeds now at Seedbay
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07-13-2006, 09:01 PM	#7
motaco Old School Cottonmouth Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The road to Nowhere. But it's a long way away and it's going day by day so it's alright. Posts: 2,200	I wasn't there either but they've always had this kinda shit. the dust bowl. depression, prohibition, WW2, cuba missle crisis, vietnam, the draft, etc. etc.
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07-13-2006, 11:08 PM	#8
DoctorSax Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: the middle Posts: 54	I think you have a point Dr.Feelgood, the world is different today. In some ways, it is the same problems in a different time, but never before in history have humans come to this point. Modern life now has the capacity to effect the world on a huge scale, and its getting out of control in some areas. We need to start thinking about the consequences of the lifestyle, the politics, the mindset that is the 21st century. __________________ May all beings be free
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07-15-2006, 09:29 AM	#9
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	We seem to be missing the anti-war protest marches of the 60's & early 70's. I think if the guys in Iraq were there as a result of a draft (in the US) things might be different. Bh
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07-15-2006, 08:02 PM	#10
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	With all these STD's these days not many people are coining the phase "Make Love not War." And Woodstock. Wouldn't it be great to get that many people together again to party and show love to one another? No violence at all. This world has too much violence in it today. We should give All the world leaders a joint or blunt and tell them to chill the fuck out.
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