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Old 10-19-2015, 12:08 AM #1
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Some Questions about Pollen Donors..

Mr Chimera..

I thought I might pre-emptively ask a few questions in regards to the upcoming Blockhead and Chem hybrids that are starting to find their way into a few IC testers hands. I, and I think others, are hoping they'll appear in a web-shop window soon.

Following on from the excellent review you gave of the stabilised line bred 'Jack' (Jack Herrer x Chimera line bred Sensi Northern Lights) pollen, I'd like to use this as a basis for asking what your Blockhead and Chem selections bring to the plethora of mothers you've chosen to cross them with.

As a catch up, here's what you said in regards to the Jack line and what might be contributing factors to the now released Jack hybrids.

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This was the result of the extremely true breeding nature of the NL that was used in all of the above crosses, including being the pollen input for the line I call 'Jack'.

Overall, as a plant, if I were to make a comparison... it would be in the same family of plants that as a class include C99. That mostly terpinolene and myrcene profile, with the little limonene spike and about equal levels of alpha and beta pinene gives a citrusy nose that some describe as grapefruit and others associate with pineapple - in fact one of the names the jack got in our group locally is PineappleJack.

The almost total lack of sesquiterps (beta caryophyllene and humulene mainly) really takes out any spicy or woody component and leaves a nose that to most, land squarely in "fruity". It's a clear, non-muddy experience that allows you to keep functioning, and the entourage keeps the clear-minded and functional perspective. On her own, I find the plants to be day-time smokes, and are easily tolerated by people that don't smoke as often as some of us. They are very easy growing plants on their own, and the only real drawback from them for some is their slightly less rigid stems that can become especially floppy in low light conditions, or if you don't have sufficient wind to strengthen the branches.

I'm not trying to confuse anyone with the name 'Jack', but this line is really no longer what I typify as 'Jack Herrer'. It's shifted into it's own family for sure, and doesn't fit the variety profile or terpenotype of the original. I can tell you though, that grown right, this one is productive and has irie vibes, bringing positive thought and open-minded expansion of thought....

-Chimera
Using the above as reference, can you tell us how the dominant terpenes in the Blockhead and Chem hybrids will differ in the possible result of growing out these new hybrids? From the many reports and test grows we can see that the Jack hybrids leaned toward a more 'Dutchy' scent; contributing toward the fruity pineapple you talk of above.

From the quote below you've already given an idea of structure, yield and hardiness that comes with your Blockhead selections.

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If you think that these blockhead selections are generic and the same old, you have no clue what you are talking about. I selected the best of 2 batches of 75 seeds each selected in different environments (indoors and greenhouse), the best re-run indoors for terp and cannab screening. We found some absolutely unique flavour profiles, something that actually quite surprised me knowing the genetics of the parents intimately- they outperformed my expectations of them. The other thing I really liked of these seeds was the incredible yield and flower set.

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-Chimera
You've alluded to 'unique' flavour profiles which I take to mean that the Blockhead hybrids might swing away from the terpinolene - myrcene profile that contributes heavily to the Jack hybrids. I've noticed with the one Nepalese Temple Blockhead hybrid I have going that the nose is much deeper with a spicy twang on the end. The fruit is there but a distant second to that 'something else'..

So which terps from the Blockhead contribute to what I'm smelling?

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There's a lot of Chem hybrids that are already available. I believe that with your GC/FID (can this type of screening be utilised with males?) screening you've been able to bring a superior selection of father pollen to the selected mothers. Can you say how your Chem selections might contribute their terps, structure and performance to the mothers?

As with the Blueberry hybrids, has the Jack, Blockhead and Chem pollen come from multiple individuals? I remember you explaining that some of the Blueberry pollen was from reversed Blueberry females; did you use this method also with the new regular Jack, Blockhead, Chem lines? Were there multiple fathers used for each line?

Thanks for any illumination you can bring.. I know you're super busy. I know you're opening up cannabis like no other... I hope you might find a moment to educate us on what we can expect from these new upcoming hybrids..

All the best as always

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Old 02-17-2017, 12:47 PM #2
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Good questions, still relevant with all of these crosses available on Breeder's Retail. Stumbled upon this post looking for info on Chimera's chemdbx.

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Excellent questions. Can we get an answer please chimera?
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Not to beat a dead horse but I too would like to know a bit more info on the pollen donors and select mothers used in the breeding programs for specific lines. I realize with so many varietals it’s a daunting task to put out so much info but I feel it may help with some of the results we are seeing. I don’t know if publishing terpene profiles would divulge any proprietary info but it would help in selecting varietals from the catalogue. I am in the hunt for a real lemony leaning varietal for personal use and while experience with many of your lines would indicate going with the sweet skunk line I would hate to pass on the blockhead or chemD lines due to lack of or little info in this respect. Also, terp profile may help with selecting some of the varietals whose lineage is not known. I really don’t care where the plant comes from so long as the end product is good. I have found something I like in just about every line I have tried…some I have kept and others I’ve passed on but they were all really good in one respect or another. Having more info could help me avoid certain lines and focus on others I may not try simply because there is not enough info available or my ignorance of certain varietals I am not familiar with. Thank you Chimera.
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