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Old 10-20-2015, 11:16 PM #21
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Hi everyone ( Gday Wal )

Ms Haslam is NO friend of the recreational cannabis users of Australia.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-1...hanged/6863816

Is so called "medical " cannabis going to be of a low THC , high CBD variety ?

In many medical cases THC is actually more important than CBD .

One rule for the rich , one rule for everyone else. Home brewing of beer is allowed so why not cannabis ?

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I'm hoping that we will be allowed to grow our own medicine but not holding my breath. Australia seems to be the sort of country where big business will have a monopoly and I can think of many ways they will try and justify it. Anyway we will see what happens. Interesting times ahead. You also have to wonder why there are needs for "trials" as there is ample evidence that pot works for a variety of ailments.

I hope a "CBD good, THC bad" mantra doesn't develop as I think both have benefits. Certainly for kids suffering seizures high CBD low THC should apply.

Lucy Haslam has been brilliant and I support what she is doing. There is a part of me that is angry that it took a conservative wife of a policeman for the politicians to listen. That is the disgusting part. People like Wodak have been on about this for 30 odd years and no one listened. Australian Story did Lucy Haslam the other night and it is worth a watch.
https://www.abc.net.au/austory/

(btw the best pot I ever smoked was grown by a friend just outside Tamworth where the Haslam's are trying to set up a grow facility)

I remain positive as all this is at least a step in the right direction.
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Funny how they want an amnesty for some medicinal folks taking the herb ,
but nothing mentioned on any amnesty for the folks supplying the medicine while the government stuff around and take for ever as usual ... all good to take it ,, but punish folks for supply , how does that work ??
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hey i agree there hardrain ,
seems its a bit different when one of "their people" need the stuff ,
suddenly they listen and do something ,
but how many others have been beating the same drum and were never taken seriously and in fact punished often ...
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Hi everyone ( Gday Wal )

Ms Haslam is NO friend of the recreational cannabis users of Australia.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-1...hanged/6863816

Is so called "medical " cannabis going to be of a low THC , high CBD variety ?

In many medical cases THC is actually more important than CBD .

One rule for the rich , one rule for everyone else. Home brewing of beer is allowed so why not cannabis ?

Cheers everyone , back under my rock ....
The details are yet to be worked out. Some medical conditions respond to low THC, high CBD/CBN strains, other conditions respond to the reverse, some in-between.
Ms Haslam has recognised this very point & advocates that one should be free to grow their own medicine. She has also said that affordable bud should be available from independent growers for those who can't grow.

In non-stoner circles, recreational & medicinal are two separate issues. Recognising this, Ms Haslam treated it as such. Her sole focus was to bring relief legally for her dying son, & now, for the many who are suffering unnecessarily.

Medical marijuana is the 1st step towards law reform. Opponents use fear, ignorance of the facts, to downright falsehoods to argue against marijuana use of any kind.
As more people treat their conditions with mmj, which will attract more research, the more society as a whole will learn what a safe & reliable medicine the Herb really is.
We KNOW weed is not as harmful as alcohol or cigarettes. It's about time it's recognised for what it is.
And when that time comes, the laws will be changed for everyone.

In the meantime, WHEN we get medical marijuana, just find an understanding Doctor & tell him how you get really depressed when you have no buds : )
And that's what the ignorant are arguing as we speak; "Recreational users will take advantage of the law to SMOKE POT!" Yep, that's the plan, haha
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Funny how they want an amnesty for some medicinal folks taking the herb ,
but nothing mentioned on any amnesty for the folks supplying the medicine while the government stuff around and take for ever as usual ... all good to take it ,, but punish folks for supply , how does that work ??
Last month I sent an e-mail to the Prime Minister (I was really wasted, haha) & received a letter in response.
Interestingly, it said that in N.S.W., although illegal, police have the authority to "turn a blind eye to patients & carers" caught with bud.

The authorities seem a bit shy to prosecute those in pain, the ill & the dying.
I've got a diagnosed 'terminal' illness (which I've outlived by 12 years thanks to my medicine) & attend a pain clinic for severe pain.
Touch wood, but if the cops tried to bust me for my medicine, you will see me kicking up a huge stink. The media would love it.
Prosecuting a dying bloke who's in severe pain is not a good look, especially not when stress is known to exacerbate the condition.

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Hey everyone. Just had to share this positive news with my fellow medical marijuana patients & recreational users!

It's just been announced that the Australian federal government will legalise the growing of medicinal marijuana.
I've been waiting nearly two decades to hear this news & now that it's happened, I thought that I'd be whooping with joy, but instead, I only feel mildly optimistic.
Maybe it hasn't sunk in yet, or knowing the power Big Pharma holds over politicians I still fear them hijacking the 'grow'.

Anyway, after years of agitating for change, we are finally moving in a positive direction.

For those who live in more enlightened societies, who are already allowed to choose their own medicine, which is the best legal model that I could wish for? (hopefully our law makers will take advantage from experience learnt from those who are operating functional & fair systems)

What legal marijuana system would you advise that I push the politicians to adopt?
Amen to that - might have to head back when it kicks in.
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Australia is full of monopolies,
i cant blame u for thinking cannabis will be another one ,
for sure its gonna be ,
thats why they want to keep folks from growing it themself ..
Too true you can bet that it will be highly regulated and controlled. The main thing though is that it begins changing in positive ways even if that is slowly. With North America pushing things now full legalisation is only a matter of time.
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I'm hoping that we will be allowed to grow our own medicine but not holding my breath. Australia seems to be the sort of country where big business will have a monopoly and I can think of many ways they will try and justify it. Anyway we will see what happens. Interesting times ahead. You also have to wonder why there are needs for "trials" as there is ample evidence that pot works for a variety of ailments.

I hope a "CBD good, THC bad" mantra doesn't develop as I think both have benefits. Certainly for kids suffering seizures high CBD low THC should apply.

Lucy Haslam has been brilliant and I support what she is doing. There is a part of me that is angry that it took a conservative wife of a policeman for the politicians to listen. That is the disgusting part. People like Wodak have been on about this for 30 odd years and no one listened. Australian Story did Lucy Haslam the other night and it is worth a watch.
https://www.abc.net.au/austory/

(btw the best pot I ever smoked was grown by a friend just outside Tamworth where the Haslam's are trying to set up a grow facility)

I remain positive as all this is at least a step in the right direction.
Exactly. Well said.

Some of the best Herb I've had came from northern NSW. People who'd been growing for years, swapping & crossing strains from mates.

It's my dream to be able to grow a wicked strain outside under the sun as nature intended.
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Too true you can bet that it will be highly regulated and controlled. The main thing though is that it begins changing in positive ways even if that is slowly. With North America pushing things now full legalisation is only a matter of time.
"...only a matter of time." Thank-you. It's the natural progression of things.

Have you seen what the ex LAPD Captain, Peter Christ has been saying? (sorry, don't know how to link) The most intelligent & coherent view on the 'war on drugs' that I've ever heard.
He belongs to LEAP - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.
He rightly says that despite the $80 billion a year spent on this 'war', there's more drugs in the U.S. than ever before. It's a massive failure. The U.S. has 25% of the worlds incarcerated. Around 75% of which are drug related.
He says that the moneys better spent treating drug use as a health issue. Exactly.
Too much to repeat here but his arguments are compelling.

Speed/meth/ice has become a real problem here in Australia. It's the Devils drug. I hate what it does to people.
Bike clubs are targeting small towns quite successfully. It's more profitable than weed. It's easier to conceal & transport. And people who peddle meth couldn't give a rats arse that it fucks others up.
It makes me wonder, would meth have been able to take a hold if marijuana was legal in the first place?
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