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Tudo · 10-06-2015, 10:25 PM

By Keith Coffman

DENVER (Reuters) - Two Colorado marijuana users have sued a cannabis grower claiming a "patently dangerous" agricultural fungicide that becomes poisonous when ignited was applied without their knowledge to pot plants they later smoked, court documents showed on Monday.
Brandan Flores and Brandie Larrabee allege that distributor and retailer LivWell has for years applied Eagle 20, a fungicide that contains the chemical myclobutanil, to its marijuana crop.
The fungicide is approved for certain edible agricultural crops, but not for smokable products such as tobacco, according to the complaint filed in Denver District Court.
"As such, persons who smoke cannabis that has been sprayed with Eagle 20 inhale ... poisonous hydrogen cyanide," the lawsuit said.
Along with the District of Columbia, four states - Colorado Washington, Oregon and Alaska - allow the possession and use of marijuana for recreational purposes. Nearly two dozen states have medical marijuana laws on their books.
The plaintiff's lawyer, Steven Woodrow, said the complaint was the first product liability action filed against the legal marijuana industry that he is aware of, and he was seeking class-action status for the lawsuit.
Flores, a recreational cannabis user, and Larrabee, a brain-tumor patient who holds a medical marijuana card, are not alleging that they were sickened by the chemical, but that they would not have smoked pot they bought from LivWell if they had known it contained the fungicide.
They are asking for reimbursement of money they spent on a product they cannot use, and are also demanding that LivWell stop using the fungicide on its cannabis crop.
According to court documents, LivWell maintains its plants are safe.
"Testing of our finished product by an independent, state-licensed lab approved by the City of Denver showed that our products are safe – as we have always maintained," LivWell's owner, John Lord, said in a statement.
Neither Lord nor his lawyer immediately responded to requests for comment.
Earlier this year, Denver health regulators withheld some 60,000 of LivWell's plants from sale until the levels of the chemical were tested, the lawsuit said.
The plants were later released for sale after low levels of the chemical were detected, according to the lawsuit, but that did not remove the harm the chemical can cause, the complaint alleged.
(Reporting by Keith Coffman; Editing by Victoria Cavaliere and Richard Pullin)
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Bud Green Sr. · 10-06-2015, 10:37 PM

I saw this coming... just didn't think it would be so soon...

Get ready people.. The flood gates are opening and the lawsuits (some frivolous, some not) will be clogging the courts soon...

And the winners will be.......you guessed it... THE LAWYERS.....

Donald Mallard · 10-06-2015, 10:42 PM

Hopefully that makes some growers take note ,
i see here many seem to like that eagle 20, theres a whole thread on it,
a quick google says its dangerous and shouldnt be used ,
and yet ....
sloppy growers using dangerous chemicals to avoid having to clean up their act ,, shame shame shame ...

Budley Doright · 10-06-2015, 10:51 PM

I find this an interesting topic.....

cannabis growers use all sorts of things that may even be organic but have never been proven safe to smoke....

neem oil comes to mind......

minds_I · 10-06-2015, 10:58 PM

ahh what about the toxins produced when combustion takes place? ohhh,

POM:

The term polycyclic organic matter (POM) defines a broad class of compounds that includes the polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon compounds (PAHs), of which benzo[a]pyrene is a member. POM compounds are formed primarily from combustion and are present in the atmosphere in particulate form. Sources of air emissions are diverse and include cigarette smoke, vehicle exhaust, home heating, laying tar, and grilling meat. Cancer is the major concern from exposure to POM. Epidemiologic studies have reported an increase in lung cancer in humans exposed to coke oven emissions, roofing tar emissions, and cigarette smoke; all of these mixtures contain POM compounds. Animal studies have reported respiratory tract tumors from inhalation exposure to benzo[a]pyrene and forestomach tumors, leukemia, and lung tumors from oral exposure to benzo[a]pyrene. EPA has classified seven PAHs (benzo[a]pyrene, benz[a]anthracene, chrysene, benzo[b]fluoranthene, benzo[k]fluoranthene, dibenz[a,h]anthracene, and indeno[1,2,3-cd]pyrene) as Group B2, probable human carcinogens.

EsterEssence · 10-07-2015, 12:00 AM

How can you spray anything on buds, i can't believe so many people do it...

Tudo · 10-07-2015, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by EsterEssence

How can you spray anything on buds, i can't believe so many people do it...

You should have seen what we did on a lot of the Colombian weed back in the late 70's ( nothing harmful though )

OGEvilgenius · 10-07-2015, 01:37 AM

I think this is a pretty good thing personally. That shit is awful and damaging to the environment at large as well.

medicalmj · 10-07-2015, 01:45 AM

I use Eagle 20 on plants in veg if PM is discovered. From what I've researched the half like is such that after two or more months it's as safe as anything we consume. I swear by it but don't condone its use on flowers.

I use Serenade or Safers fungicide on buds up to 1 week before harvest and then rinse or soak before trimming if Serenade or any other (OMRI only in flower) product was used at end of flower. From what I've researched the half like is such that after two or more months it's as safe as anything we consume.

Donald Mallard · 10-07-2015, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by medicalmj

I use Eagle 20 on plants in veg if PM is discovered. From what I've researched the half like is such that after two or more months it's as safe as anything we consume. I swear by it but don't condone its use on flowers.

I use Serenade or Safers fungicide on buds up to 1 week before harvest and then rinse or soak before trimming if Serenade or any other (OMRI only in flower) product was used at end of flower. From what I've researched the half like is such that after two or more months it's as safe as anything we consume.

get your stuff tested , know for sure , dont just guess .. seems like you could end up in court otherwise ..
you d be better off improving your grow environment to avoid those problems in the first place ....

10-06-2015, 10:25 PM	#1
Tudo Troublemaker Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 3,744	Colorado marijuana users sue grower over fungicide By Keith Coffman DENVER (Reuters) - Two Colorado marijuana users have sued a cannabis grower claiming a "patently dangerous" agricultural fungicide that becomes poisonous when ignited was applied without their knowledge to pot plants they later smoked, court documents showed on Monday. Brandan Flores and Brandie Larrabee allege that distributor and retailer LivWell has for years applied Eagle 20, a fungicide that contains the chemical myclobutanil, to its marijuana crop. The fungicide is approved for certain edible agricultural crops, but not for smokable products such as tobacco, according to the complaint filed in Denver District Court. "As such, persons who smoke cannabis that has been sprayed with Eagle 20 inhale ... poisonous hydrogen cyanide," the lawsuit said. Along with the District of Columbia, four states - Colorado Washington, Oregon and Alaska - allow the possession and use of marijuana for recreational purposes. Nearly two dozen states have medical marijuana laws on their books. The plaintiff's lawyer, Steven Woodrow, said the complaint was the first product liability action filed against the legal marijuana industry that he is aware of, and he was seeking class-action status for the lawsuit. Flores, a recreational cannabis user, and Larrabee, a brain-tumor patient who holds a medical marijuana card, are not alleging that they were sickened by the chemical, but that they would not have smoked pot they bought from LivWell if they had known it contained the fungicide. They are asking for reimbursement of money they spent on a product they cannot use, and are also demanding that LivWell stop using the fungicide on its cannabis crop. According to court documents, LivWell maintains its plants are safe. "Testing of our finished product by an independent, state-licensed lab approved by the City of Denver showed that our products are safe – as we have always maintained," LivWell's owner, John Lord, said in a statement. Neither Lord nor his lawyer immediately responded to requests for comment. Earlier this year, Denver health regulators withheld some 60,000 of LivWell's plants from sale until the levels of the chemical were tested, the lawsuit said. The plants were later released for sale after low levels of the chemical were detected, according to the lawsuit, but that did not remove the harm the chemical can cause, the complaint alleged. (Reporting by Keith Coffman; Editing by Victoria Cavaliere and Richard Pullin)  View Comments (85) https://news.yahoo.com/colorado-marijuana-users-sue-grower-over-fungicide-050550955.html __________________ The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good things is my religion. Thomas Paine ( Godfather of the American Revolution)
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10-06-2015, 10:37 PM	#2
Bud Green Sr. I dig dirt Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: in the hills Posts: 2,633	I saw this coming... just didn't think it would be so soon... Get ready people.. The flood gates are opening and the lawsuits (some frivolous, some not) will be clogging the courts soon... And the winners will be.......you guessed it... THE LAWYERS..... __________________ ... Isn't Mother Nature grand !
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10-06-2015, 10:42 PM	#3
Donald Mallard Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,811	Hopefully that makes some growers take note , i see here many seem to like that eagle 20, theres a whole thread on it, a quick google says its dangerous and shouldnt be used , and yet .... sloppy growers using dangerous chemicals to avoid having to clean up their act ,, shame shame shame ...
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10-06-2015, 10:51 PM	#4
Budley Doright Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,884	I find this an interesting topic..... cannabis growers use all sorts of things that may even be organic but have never been proven safe to smoke.... neem oil comes to mind...... __________________ https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=42847 Wick Cloning = Cheap and effective MMMP Patient/Caregiver https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=309503 Big Clones.....and Air Layers also a legal Michigan grow
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10-06-2015, 10:58 PM	#5
minds_I The Emperor is not only naked but batshit crazy. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Norcal USA Posts: 5,269	ahh what about the toxins produced when combustion takes place? ohhh, POM: The term polycyclic organic matter (POM) defines a broad class of compounds that includes the polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon compounds (PAHs), of which benzo[a]pyrene is a member. POM compounds are formed primarily from combustion and are present in the atmosphere in particulate form. Sources of air emissions are diverse and include cigarette smoke, vehicle exhaust, home heating, laying tar, and grilling meat. Cancer is the major concern from exposure to POM. Epidemiologic studies have reported an increase in lung cancer in humans exposed to coke oven emissions, roofing tar emissions, and cigarette smoke; all of these mixtures contain POM compounds. Animal studies have reported respiratory tract tumors from inhalation exposure to benzo[a]pyrene and forestomach tumors, leukemia, and lung tumors from oral exposure to benzo[a]pyrene. EPA has classified seven PAHs (benzo[a]pyrene, benz[a]anthracene, chrysene, benzo[b]fluoranthene, benzo[k]fluoranthene, dibenz[a,h]anthracene, and indeno[1,2,3-cd]pyrene) as Group B2, probable human carcinogens. __________________ His contempt for objective truth is the rejection of democratic accountability, an implicit demand that his supporters place undying faith in him. Because the only measure of truth he accepts is what he claims at any given moment, the power his supporters vest in him is unlimited. Sound familiar? If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures. In the United States, under our Constitution, a free press is a check on politicians of all parties. If we are to demand that other countries respect the tradition of a free press we must also practice that here at home. Let the people know the facts, and the country will be safe.
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10-07-2015, 12:00 AM	#6
EsterEssence Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Wherever I go there I am Posts: 1,066	How can you spray anything on buds, i can't believe so many people do it... __________________ Prop 215 compliant. Don't panic it's ORGANIC...
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10-07-2015, 01:37 AM	#8
OGEvilgenius Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 662	I think this is a pretty good thing personally. That shit is awful and damaging to the environment at large as well.
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10-07-2015, 01:45 AM	#9
medicalmj Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,292	I use Eagle 20 on plants in veg if PM is discovered. From what I've researched the half like is such that after two or more months it's as safe as anything we consume. I swear by it but don't condone its use on flowers. I use Serenade or Safers fungicide on buds up to 1 week before harvest and then rinse or soak before trimming if Serenade or any other (OMRI only in flower) product was used at end of flower. From what I've researched the half like is such that after two or more months it's as safe as anything we consume. __________________ Just a little disclaimer: I don't really grow weed, hell I've never even tried it. My shrink suggested I develop an alter-ego to help with my low self esteem. So I took on the identity of a marijuana grower. Seemed real exciting and a little risque. So if I post any pictures, sorry but they're just something I found on the internet. Thanks in advance for playing along, and helping me with these tough times!
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