[_tessarecting]

Where is this many millions figure coming from chunk?
Wasn't it 1000$ last time they tried to put a figure on it for a type2?

[Chunkypigs]

Originally Posted by _tessarecting

Where is this many millions figure coming from chunk?
Wasn't it 1000$ last time they tried to put a figure on it for a type2?

every new mmj reg in the past couple of years has required posting a bond to get licensed. in NY it was 2 million.

if your figure out the cost of the cheapest commercial category, 5000 square feet indoor, 150-300 lights, or the greenhouse,
legal permitted facility buildout and all the associated legal fees behind getting an application accepted I think you will be looking at many millions to jump the hoops.

the lowest entry point of 5000 feet outdoors probably sounds doable except…

the regs say local rules trump state. if you think any town or County is going to allow a commercial medical grow in a backyard you are delirious.

they will certainly make you have 10 acres if not many more to play and all kinds of security and rules about it being waaaay the fuck away from any residential.

that means you need to buy or lease land based on local rules that don't exist yet except in the many places where it is already banned
and it's going to take way longer than the state rules did to write them.

local lawmakers are part time and will not be in a hurry to write up new regs about this.
they have been busy trying to restrict it for years except for a few communities.
maybe Humbolt will move fast, maybe Berkeley. perhaps Oakland.

full season outdoor for this smallest category will never be profitable in NorCal with the weather there.
It only works there because of the diversion to black market.

it will still cost millions to get the license and facility and land and jump through the hoops but the price for outdoor will be too low and one bad year will finish you.
you won't be able to sell a shitty crop to out of state brokers with the state tracking you.

maybe in SoCal where land is still cheap like Joshua tree or Salton and the weather would let you get 2 outdoor crops off without light depping.

the light dep greenhouse category is the future but the big ops will drive the price way down and the size of the big recreational is going to crush medical when the prices start to fall.

the loophole that everyone has been exploiting for years to grow huge diversion mmj crops is slamming shut.

get your resume together, cut your hair, cover the tats, and start looking for a rich fucker whose ass needs licking to give you a good job in the weed business.

they are lining up with their checkbooks and will need servicing soon.

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[Sunfire]

Originally Posted by SocalNugz

It says on or before january 1st 2016 on #5

Some of this stuff isnt so bad but dear god the rest of it is FUCT.
This is gonna be a shit storm.

I'm pretty sure the 2016 deadline is for local authority to step in, otherwise the licensing requirements are referred to the state. But city and county can still come back later and enforce a ban.

Whatever agency does the enforcement, keeps the money. So county and city have incentive to "bust" everyone. But the 10 million dollar "loan" to start the program goes into a general state fund. The state has to issues the fines to get money back into that fund to recoup the loan money. Nowhere does it state the duration of the loan or interest occured, it just says "loan."

This go around they doubles the fine from 15k to 30k for each infraction of miskept books or records. Everything, names social security numbers, addresses, locations, fein, sboe numbers, everything is to be housed in a huge database and you'll be fined 30k for every single mis placed step. Who will be the test rabbit for this? No one! These bills were purposely written to where no one can do it. The licensing program is so hard to understand a chart was made by the great deborah Tharp... https://cannabissite.wordpress.com/

All labels must have "schedule 1 substance" on them, which is huge self incrimination. If you make a drop of 50 parcels that 50 charges the feds can now subpoena from the state, or the state can use against you in charges if the deem you are not in compliance.

fish and game get to regulate you too and they get to make it up as they go along. That's the best part. They will literally get to make up the charges and fines is how the language is written. They gave them ultimate power with no checks or balances.

Bless mickey ' s soul hes a good guy. But there's a lot more in these bills then just all that.

So what to do.....? Attached is pic you all should see. The csaa is a constitutional amendment specifically written to kneecap these bad bills without interfering with any other 2016 legalisation initiatives. Follow them @csaa2016

And btw, nice to see some familiar names here. Time for unity my friends!

[Sunfire]

And here's something else to think about...

https://www.leafly.com/news/headline...l-cannabis-pro

so think, what was the true purpose of these bills???

It's on my friends, rally behind the right banners or we all burn. Whether you choose cchi or mclr is fine, as long as one of them passes WITH the csaa.

[_tessarecting]

I hear a 2m bond costs around 1000.
I don't see how doing outdoor is no longer profitable unless you're greedy.

[VonBudí]

Originally Posted by Chunkypigs

plant counts are finished, new rules limit square footage.

goodbye big plants hello sogs then? say it aint so

talking about this in hash church,early in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aTg1UHVNOQ

[sureshot66]

so will all of the non pre icos be able to obtain a license to vend? what about 2016 legalization will that allow new non medical brick and mortar shops to vend to? what appens to pricing? i see the demand increasing while supply drops as spots can only vend from licensed growers, doesnt that increase price? home growers are basiclly out of the loop now for vending

[theJointedOne]

fuck this bullshit.

haha i guess folks who have hella money and lawyer friends will be fine, rest of us get fucked.

Guess i need to brown nose a rich investor who can supply a full time lawyer on retainer to hire me to grow his outdoor, and the lawyer to take care of the bullshit.

Guerrilla anyone?

curious how this will affect blackmarket/going out of state prices?

[Chunkypigs]

Originally Posted by sureshot66

so will all of the non pre icos be able to obtain a license to vend? what about 2016 legalization will that allow new non medical brick and mortar shops to vend to? what appens to pricing? i see the demand increasing while supply drops as spots can only vend from licensed growers, doesnt that increase price? home growers are basiclly out of the loop now for vending

you have to understand that this was a last minute scramble to get medical sorted before next year's recreational rule scramble.

they really did protect patients here. just not the folks who have been growing for them in the past.

it's the sick folks on the east coast who will suffer when the cheap outdoor flow gets turned off.

you see all the new regs on doctors in this? medical is going to be for really sick people in the future and everybody else is supposed to get taxed on recreational.

the black market prices will certainly go up as it slowly disappears.
where is the east coast weed going to come from?
if CA recreational allows home growing and citizens get their legal 50 square feet per household it will still allow some diversion.
if they allow home growing for recreational. that would hurt profits.