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sproutco · 07-09-2006, 08:22 PM

Thats a good idea you have to use dilute teas instead of incorporating into the soil anything other than the dolomite lime. You would have a little more control and could add a little more or less as the plants grow. You could easily wash a tea out of the soil if need be easier than if alot of nutrients are in there at preplant. Promix I think is already limed so you might not have to add more. I think promix hp or high porosity could stand alone without having to add perlite, etc...

DragonX · 07-10-2006, 06:11 AM

I agree with sproutco.Go with the tea except lime. Unless your doing outdoor grow and your not going to check up on it that offten then that mix would be good.

L8er
DragonX

**BurnOne** · 07-10-2006, 04:52 PM

If you want to use guano in your soil mix...
Bongaloids guano mix
1/3C hi N guano per gallon
1/2C hi Phos guano per gallon
1TBS Jersey greensand per gallon
1TBS Kelp meal per gallon

Now, you need to start with a good grow medium to mix all thet stuff into...
Here are two very good organic soiless mixes...

LC’s Soiless Mix #1:
5 parts Canadian Spaghnam Peat or Coir or Pro-Moss
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost
Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
...Check the link in my sig line below for cheap earthworm castings. Free shipping to the eastern USA.

Or, if you use Pro Mix or Sunshine Mix...
LC's Soiless Mix #2:
6 parts Pro Mix BX or HP / Sunshine Mix (any flavor from #1 up)
2 parts perlite
2 parts earthworm castings
Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
If you use a 3 qt. saucepan as “parts” in the amounts given above, it equals about 1 cu. ft. of soiless mix and you can just dump in a cup of powdered dolomite lime.

ProMix has just enough dolomite in it to correct pH of the peat. You'll need more to keep it neutral and to add calcium and magnesium throughout the grow.

I'd rather use teas because I can adjust them to suit a perticular strain...

If you want to use guano tea and kelp...

Guano Tea and Kelp:

Seedlings less than 1 month old nute tea mix-
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
1-cup earthworm castings/5 gallons of water every 3rd watering

Veg mix-
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG)
1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican)
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
@ 1-cup mix/5 gallons of water every 3rd watering.

Flowering nute tea mix:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican)
5 tbs. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
@ 2 cups/5 gallons of water EVERY watering.
You can use queen size knee high nylon stockings for tea bags. 3 pair for a dollar at the dollar store. Tell 'em you use them for paint strainers. Put the recommended tea in the stocking, tie a loop knot in it and hang it in your tea bucket. The tea should look like a mud puddle. Agitate the bag in the water vigorously. An aquarium pump and air stone will dissolve oxygen into the solution and keep the good bacteria (microherd) alive and thriving. Let it bubble a day or two before you use it. If you find you are making too much tea and having to throw it out, use 2 1/2 gallons of water and cut the nute amount by half.

Burn1

**BurnOne** · 07-11-2006, 05:17 PM

BMISS-
There are no dumb questions except the ones not asked.
In the water.
Burn1

07-11-2006, 05:30 PM

nice guys

xvr420x · 08-14-2006, 04:08 AM

ive been wanting to use guano for a while now. Right now i use bone & blood meal which somebody said was bad, im not sure if thats confirmed or not. I also use the kelp, dolomite lime and epsom salt. Anyway im looking to expand my organic experiance so...what is liquid karma? Where can i get it? Does it have a substitute? BOG dont you use Bone/Blood meal?

Suby · 08-15-2006, 02:09 AM

Blood and bone meal are fine, they were an integral part of BOG's fert method.
I find guanos are good for teas and blood and bone meal are good for soil ammendment purposes as a part of a good recipe like one with the ingredients you just listed.

reefa cheefa · 09-26-2007, 05:10 AM

Perfect Just what i was looking 4!
thanks

07-09-2006, 08:06 PM	#1
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	some guano ?'s ... Last edited by BMISS; 07-13-2006 at 03:39 AM..
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07-09-2006, 08:22 PM	#2
sproutco Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,645	Thats a good idea you have to use dilute teas instead of incorporating into the soil anything other than the dolomite lime. You would have a little more control and could add a little more or less as the plants grow. You could easily wash a tea out of the soil if need be easier than if alot of nutrients are in there at preplant. Promix I think is already limed so you might not have to add more. I think promix hp or high porosity could stand alone without having to add perlite, etc... Last edited by sproutco; 07-09-2006 at 08:25 PM..
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07-10-2006, 06:11 AM	#3
DragonX Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Land Of hypocrisy Posts: 28	I agree with sproutco.Go with the tea except lime. Unless your doing outdoor grow and your not going to check up on it that offten then that mix would be good. L8er DragonX
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07-10-2006, 04:52 PM	#4
BurnOne No damn given. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 2,714	If you want to use guano in your soil mix... Bongaloids guano mix 1/3C hi N guano per gallon 1/2C hi Phos guano per gallon 1TBS Jersey greensand per gallon 1TBS Kelp meal per gallon Now, you need to start with a good grow medium to mix all thet stuff into... Here are two very good organic soiless mixes... LC’s Soiless Mix #1: 5 parts Canadian Spaghnam Peat or Coir or Pro-Moss 3 parts perlite 2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix. ...Check the link in my sig line below for cheap earthworm castings. Free shipping to the eastern USA. Or, if you use Pro Mix or Sunshine Mix... LC's Soiless Mix #2: 6 parts Pro Mix BX or HP / Sunshine Mix (any flavor from #1 up) 2 parts perlite 2 parts earthworm castings Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix. If you use a 3 qt. saucepan as “parts” in the amounts given above, it equals about 1 cu. ft. of soiless mix and you can just dump in a cup of powdered dolomite lime. ProMix has just enough dolomite in it to correct pH of the peat. You'll need more to keep it neutral and to add calcium and magnesium throughout the grow. I'd rather use teas because I can adjust them to suit a perticular strain... If you want to use guano tea and kelp... Guano Tea and Kelp: Seedlings less than 1 month old nute tea mix- 5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses 1-cup earthworm castings/5 gallons of water every 3rd watering Veg mix- 1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG) 1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican) 1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC) 5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract 5 tbs. Liquid Karma 5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses @ 1-cup mix/5 gallons of water every 3rd watering. Flowering nute tea mix: 2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano 2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings 2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican) 5 tbs. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract 5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses @ 2 cups/5 gallons of water EVERY watering. You can use queen size knee high nylon stockings for tea bags. 3 pair for a dollar at the dollar store. Tell 'em you use them for paint strainers. Put the recommended tea in the stocking, tie a loop knot in it and hang it in your tea bucket. The tea should look like a mud puddle. Agitate the bag in the water vigorously. An aquarium pump and air stone will dissolve oxygen into the solution and keep the good bacteria (microherd) alive and thriving. Let it bubble a day or two before you use it. If you find you are making too much tea and having to throw it out, use 2 1/2 gallons of water and cut the nute amount by half. Burn1 __________________ It's 4:20 somewhere. Time to Burn1. Bullshit! There's no need to flush organics. -Bongaloid pH meter? We don't need no stinking pH meter! Last edited by BurnOne; 07-10-2006 at 04:53 PM..
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07-11-2006, 05:17 PM	#5
BurnOne No damn given. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 2,714	BMISS- There are no dumb questions except the ones not asked. In the water. Burn1 __________________ It's 4:20 somewhere. Time to Burn1. Bullshit! There's no need to flush organics. -Bongaloid pH meter? We don't need no stinking pH meter!
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07-11-2006, 05:30 PM	#6
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	nice guys
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08-14-2006, 04:08 AM	#7
xvr420x New Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1	ive been wanting to use guano for a while now. Right now i use bone & blood meal which somebody said was bad, im not sure if thats confirmed or not. I also use the kelp, dolomite lime and epsom salt. Anyway im looking to expand my organic experiance so...what is liquid karma? Where can i get it? Does it have a substitute? BOG dont you use Bone/Blood meal?
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08-15-2006, 02:09 AM	#8
Suby AWD Aficianado Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the healing arms of planet love. Posts: 2,435	Blood and bone meal are fine, they were an integral part of BOG's fert method. I find guanos are good for teas and blood and bone meal are good for soil ammendment purposes as a part of a good recipe like one with the ingredients you just listed. __________________ Organic Fanatic Collective Suby's Kitchen The "Beer" Fridge ~Pimp Your Organic Fertilizer~
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09-26-2007, 05:10 AM	#9
reefa cheefa Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 392	Perfect Just what i was looking 4! thanks
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