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blooper · 09-03-2015, 05:34 PM

hoping to cross AC/DC with hurkle in hopes of finding a higher CBD seed that maintains a solid 10% THC but neither are male. i have some solution to encourage pollen production but i've read it's prone to hermaphrodites and if bred further into the rest of the genepool, might bring that trait with it.

worth it to try if i don't plan on crossing the resulting seeds with stable genetics? seems like even if you do, just keep an eye out and get rid of the hermies.

last thing, does it matter which plant gets turned hermaphrodite if you are combining two different strains? looking to get away from the spindley, weak growth of the AC/DC and beef it up with the hurkle.

any help appreciated

MJPassion · 09-03-2015, 05:49 PM

If ya have the solution why not reverse a cut of each to pollinate each other as well as self themselves?
Then you will have 4 lines to work with.

In the S1 you should be able to see if those floppy stems are dominant or not. If not, maybe you will find a better parent plant to work with for your purposes. Same for the hurkle. You should see what attributes dominate in S1s & possibly find a better parent for your cross.

However...
Since you desire breeding for Chemotype, you should probably have any plants you deem fit as a parent tested for cannabinoids/terpins for a better match. Not many breeders are taking this path due to testing expenses.

Good luck with your project and your hunt for your favorite specimen.

blooper · 09-04-2015, 05:15 PM

is testing of tissue an accurate indicator? not sure if any labs do that. it would save a lot of time not having to flower every potential plant..

Gdawg61 · 09-04-2015, 08:38 PM

You can successfully reverse your females using Colodial Silver. I got this on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o00_s00

I reversed a Bog Grape Punch and pollinated my Bog Blue Kush. I grew out 10 beans and there were no hermies and I had 2 excellent keepers from the 10. This is by far the best way to reverse your favorite females!!

Good luck

algol · 05-04-2016, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gdawg61

You can successfully reverse your females using Colodial Silver. I got this on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o00_s00

I reversed a Bog Grape Punch and pollinated my Bog Blue Kush. I grew out 10 beans and there were no hermies and I had 2 excellent keepers from the 10. This is by far the best way to reverse your favorite females!!

Good luck

got any pics or journals of it ?

MJPassion · 05-05-2016, 05:26 PM

The search function works pretty well.

blooper · 05-07-2016, 06:34 AM

haven't heard that one before. maybe i'm just a moron and can't search properly but i did search a bunch of different terms and read a bunch of threads and i havent found anything on the matter of whether or not there is any sort of dominance in the outcome depending on which plant is treated making fem'd hybrids or if it'll just be a crapshoot either way. seems to be the case with male/female breeding but even with s1's, from all i've learned reading books and utilizing the search function it seems like there will always be some variation in the offspring. perhaps someone with actual experience could chime in or i can just continue experimenting and figure it out on my own.

MJPassion · 05-07-2016, 04:10 PM

Sorry, my previous comment was directed at algol...

englishrick · 05-07-2016, 07:15 PM

Combining 2 keeper females to make seeds , is my preference in breeding when I choose seeds to pop

blooper · 05-08-2016, 11:13 AM

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Combining 2 keeper females to make seeds , is my preference in breeding when I choose seeds to pop

nice! for some reason it seems like a lot of people look down on feminized breeding. i havent ever had a hermie that was a huge problem. even the ones i have encountered still yielded well and didnt pollinate the room since i was quick on pinching the nanners away.

i bailed on the AC/DC. the particular cut i had seems to be prone to pest problems and a poor yielder. after a run outdoor i decided to keep looking rather than breed with her.

glad to know this isn't a bad way to go. after a lot of searching i finally found some seeds that are supposedly able to get over 20% CBD while being mold and pest resistant. currently waiting on those to show sex but i've kept the hurkle mother in good health and plan to get this seed project done be it feminized or regular breeding this outdoor season. if i devote a whole plant to seeds it seems like i'll have a ton to sift through so i might need some help pheno hunting lol

thanks for the input and encouragement everyone! didnt mean to snap at ya MJpassion

09-03-2015, 05:34 PM	#1
blooper Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 240	combining two females for seed production hoping to cross AC/DC with hurkle in hopes of finding a higher CBD seed that maintains a solid 10% THC but neither are male. i have some solution to encourage pollen production but i've read it's prone to hermaphrodites and if bred further into the rest of the genepool, might bring that trait with it. worth it to try if i don't plan on crossing the resulting seeds with stable genetics? seems like even if you do, just keep an eye out and get rid of the hermies. last thing, does it matter which plant gets turned hermaphrodite if you are combining two different strains? looking to get away from the spindley, weak growth of the AC/DC and beef it up with the hurkle. any help appreciated
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09-03-2015, 05:49 PM	#2
MJPassion Observer Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: uni-verse Posts: 5,584	If ya have the solution why not reverse a cut of each to pollinate each other as well as self themselves? Then you will have 4 lines to work with. In the S1 you should be able to see if those floppy stems are dominant or not. If not, maybe you will find a better parent plant to work with for your purposes. Same for the hurkle. You should see what attributes dominate in S1s & possibly find a better parent for your cross. However... Since you desire breeding for Chemotype, you should probably have any plants you deem fit as a parent tested for cannabinoids/terpins for a better match. Not many breeders are taking this path due to testing expenses. Good luck with your project and your hunt for your favorite specimen.
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09-04-2015, 08:38 PM	#4
Gdawg61 Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 123	You can successfully reverse your females using Colodial Silver. I got this on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o00_s00 I reversed a Bog Grape Punch and pollinated my Bog Blue Kush. I grew out 10 beans and there were no hermies and I had 2 excellent keepers from the 10. This is by far the best way to reverse your favorite females!! Good luck
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englishrick Plumber/Builder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: B&Q Posts: 6,686	Combining 2 keeper females to make seeds , is my preference in breeding when I choose seeds to pop __________________ i.c.mag saved my life
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09-04-2015, 05:15 PM	#3
blooper Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 240	is testing of tissue an accurate indicator? not sure if any labs do that. it would save a lot of time not having to flower every potential plant..
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05-05-2016, 05:26 PM	#6
MJPassion Observer Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: uni-verse Posts: 5,584	The search function works pretty well.
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05-07-2016, 06:34 AM	#7
blooper Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 240	haven't heard that one before. maybe i'm just a moron and can't search properly but i did search a bunch of different terms and read a bunch of threads and i havent found anything on the matter of whether or not there is any sort of dominance in the outcome depending on which plant is treated making fem'd hybrids or if it'll just be a crapshoot either way. seems to be the case with male/female breeding but even with s1's, from all i've learned reading books and utilizing the search function it seems like there will always be some variation in the offspring. perhaps someone with actual experience could chime in or i can just continue experimenting and figure it out on my own.
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05-07-2016, 04:10 PM	#8
MJPassion Observer Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: uni-verse Posts: 5,584	Sorry, my previous comment was directed at algol...
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