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Highsenburg831 · 08-30-2015, 09:09 PM

im doing a seed run of og ghost train haze #9 and bangi haze from ace seeds. 4 seeds of each got 4 gth females and 3 bh females, one male. i sexed all the clones in the same tray. now that i have one male that could pollinate all the females, how long do i need to let all the plants go until the seeds are ready to harvest?

the plan is to up pot the tray and leave them outside long enough for the seeds to be ready. will the plants take a full 12 weeks or whatever the full flowering time is?

if I'm not gonna smoke the weed can i just spray with eagle 20 to keet the pm and mold away and not worry about anything?

waveguide · 08-30-2015, 09:46 PM

maybe a month would be the minimum for viable seeds if you were desperate, 5 or 6 weeks would be decent, there should be dry calyxes and protruding seeds ready to drop from most strains by then, in my experience. of course more time is better, say 8 would be about the most before you're picking most of them off the ground.

Highsenburg831 · 08-30-2015, 09:58 PM

cool
thank you

3rdEye · 08-31-2015, 05:17 AM

I would ask you to reconsider using products like eagle-20. Even if you are not smoking the plants.

Otherwise waveguide has it right. 40-50 days with closer to 45-50 giving you just a few more days to get those seeds plump.

Thcvhunter · 08-31-2015, 06:16 AM

If your just making seeds why worry about PM?
Therefore no need to poison your community with Eagle-20.
Please learn to grow safely. Its irresponsible using regulated fungicides haphazardly.

5-7.5 weeks for seeds.

If you want to prevent PM give your olants and soil Ca Si S

Ganoderma · 08-31-2015, 07:17 AM

Seeds can be ready in 4 weeks. But there are variables to that. Giving them up to 5-6 weeks will help to increase viable seeds. In theory, if you have two cuttings from the same plant and one is very lightly seeded (a seed or two per bud) and the other has been very heavily seeded. The one that is lightly seeded will produce viable seeds sooner then the one that is fully seeded, which will need a little more time for the crop to mature.

It is nice to be able to sample the plant that you are selecting for seeds, even if that sample is from seeded bud. You can pick out what you like best, or what you find to be the best one.

Thcvhunter · 09-01-2015, 08:27 PM

^-- yup yup yup. Its an energy thing.
I've noticed with Ful-Power and SST's seeds are done several days to a week sooner (same clone)

MicroRoy · 09-01-2015, 08:35 PM

Does anyone have any ideas how the epigenome switches might be triggered differently. If you harvest sooner rather than later or vice versa.?

Might it make the new crop of seeds favor one phenotype over another?

Thcvhunter · 09-01-2015, 08:40 PM

You might be favoring plants to sex earlier

3rdEye · 09-01-2015, 08:52 PM

Another good reason to let your girls get a few weeks into flowering before pollinating. It seems likely that you would be favoring early finishing plants by using that harvest strategy. Thcv on point.

That way you also have more potential pistils for perpetuation.

08-30-2015, 09:09 PM	#1
Highsenburg831 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 345	how long does a seeded plant need to go for seeds to be ready? im doing a seed run of og ghost train haze #9 and bangi haze from ace seeds. 4 seeds of each got 4 gth females and 3 bh females, one male. i sexed all the clones in the same tray. now that i have one male that could pollinate all the females, how long do i need to let all the plants go until the seeds are ready to harvest? the plan is to up pot the tray and leave them outside long enough for the seeds to be ready. will the plants take a full 12 weeks or whatever the full flowering time is? if I'm not gonna smoke the weed can i just spray with eagle 20 to keet the pm and mold away and not worry about anything?
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08-30-2015, 09:46 PM	#2
waveguide Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,950	maybe a month would be the minimum for viable seeds if you were desperate, 5 or 6 weeks would be decent, there should be dry calyxes and protruding seeds ready to drop from most strains by then, in my experience. of course more time is better, say 8 would be about the most before you're picking most of them off the ground. __________________ strain zombie says: straaaaaiiins "I think the prevailing attitudes.. ..that community is completely harmless and beneficial is wishful thinking at best, ignorant and delusional in many cases, and are the "snake oil" of the charlatan in the worst cases." where there is certainty, consideration is absent koala tea seeds
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08-30-2015, 09:58 PM	#3
Highsenburg831 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 345	cool thank you
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08-31-2015, 05:17 AM	#4
3rdEye Alchemical Botanist Join Date: May 2010 Location: right here Posts: 1,391	I would ask you to reconsider using products like eagle-20. Even if you are not smoking the plants. Otherwise waveguide has it right. 40-50 days with closer to 45-50 giving you just a few more days to get those seeds plump. __________________ breath...
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08-31-2015, 06:16 AM	#5
Thcvhunter Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: PNW Posts: 1,084	If your just making seeds why worry about PM? Therefore no need to poison your community with Eagle-20. Please learn to grow safely. Its irresponsible using regulated fungicides haphazardly. 5-7.5 weeks for seeds. If you want to prevent PM give your olants and soil Ca Si S
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08-31-2015, 07:17 AM	#6
Ganoderma Hydronaut Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,377	Seeds can be ready in 4 weeks. But there are variables to that. Giving them up to 5-6 weeks will help to increase viable seeds. In theory, if you have two cuttings from the same plant and one is very lightly seeded (a seed or two per bud) and the other has been very heavily seeded. The one that is lightly seeded will produce viable seeds sooner then the one that is fully seeded, which will need a little more time for the crop to mature. It is nice to be able to sample the plant that you are selecting for seeds, even if that sample is from seeded bud. You can pick out what you like best, or what you find to be the best one. __________________ Double Dutch F2's Hooked On Ponics The ReishiArium 1K RDWC grow My Double Dutch Grow
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09-01-2015, 08:27 PM	#7
Thcvhunter Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: PNW Posts: 1,084	^-- yup yup yup. Its an energy thing. I've noticed with Ful-Power and SST's seeds are done several days to a week sooner (same clone)
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09-01-2015, 08:35 PM	#8
MicroRoy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Up above the Timberline Posts: 3,202	Does anyone have any ideas how the epigenome switches might be triggered differently. If you harvest sooner rather than later or vice versa.? Might it make the new crop of seeds favor one phenotype over another?
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09-01-2015, 08:40 PM	#9
Thcvhunter Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: PNW Posts: 1,084	You might be favoring plants to sex earlier
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09-01-2015, 08:52 PM	#10
3rdEye Alchemical Botanist Join Date: May 2010 Location: right here Posts: 1,391	Another good reason to let your girls get a few weeks into flowering before pollinating. It seems likely that you would be favoring early finishing plants by using that harvest strategy. Thcv on point. That way you also have more potential pistils for perpetuation. __________________ breath...
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