[Thcvhunter]

So I've been noticing when running the same strain in different environments that the clones express themselves differently.
For example, Last year(fall/winter) I was growing ID under HPS/MH/MV and bringing my plants under the sun when I could. As a result my plants had 11-13 blades per leaf.
I had to move and now am growing under just HPS and am only getting 7-9 blades per leaf.

My question is, how does this affect breeding?

If I pollinated Plant A back in Fall in winter when it was 11 blades, will the progeny be different than the Plant A now with 9 blades being pollinated with the same pollen?

Same question applies to using a male clone that I collected pollen from with 13 blades and then collected pollen from a clone of the same plant that only shows 9 or 11 blades

Much Thanks

think this could be interesting

[MJPassion]

Environmental factors could influence how genes recombine, from the little I've read on the subject.

It's been discussed quite a bit but is probably the least understood aspect about gene recombination. Search "epigenetics"...

[master chine]

Always dépend on evrything...
Température hygrométrie evrything màke à impact

[Thcvhunter]

Thank you MJP, I assumed the answer would be hidden in epigenics
I just wonder if its worth chucking pollen while I have a subpar setup now

Has anybody seen batches of seeds differ when making a batch in better conditions than a batch that was made in different conditions?

[MJPassion]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....264116&page=12

Check out these last few pages.
You may be surprised.
I'm kind in shock over the convo.

i,ve been waiting on more experienced guys to answer in this thread..... ( not me more pollen chucker with what i hope are good genetics) in my defence i do test run them all unless they don't make the cut.

i recently bred seed as some of you may know. got me thinking. i norm do my seed in the grow season. this year i did some in the off season ( winter) i figured good testing grounds for stress ect

however it did get me thinking......will i end up with more males or females breeding in a harsher environment . will it have any impact on other factors like vigour .

does nature favour producing more of one sex in a harsher environment ? my answer was no to all my what if,s i had . i figured what was bred will grow to its full potential giving the right conditions.

i also came to the conclusion because they were bred in a harsh environment they may pass on better survival traits in the gene . plus the benefit being only the better were selected in that environment for the breeding that they are stronger better candidates, that perhaps i would not have seen if done in optimal conditions.

all just theories i,m not about to go saying its how it is with such more experienced guys around here!

[Thcvhunter]

MJP, thank u for that link. Youre right, excellent convo.

Still, I can't find a clear answer as to how the living genetic pool is affected if I pollinate my P1 when she is showing 9leaves as a clone in room a compared to pollinating her when she's throwing 11 or 13 leaves in room B.
I can see how it would effect the growth patterns but what about cannabinoids and terpines?

[Sam_Skunkman]

I think you are mixing up genotype–phenotype expression. Most phenotypic expression is not involved with breeding, that does not change the genes in any way for progeny, they will be the same as if produced under perfect conditions. Maybe you need to read up on breeding and inheritance?
-SamS

Originally Posted by Thcvhunter

So I've been noticing when running the same strain in different environments that the clones express themselves differently.
For example, Last year(fall/winter) I was growing ID under HPS/MH/MV and bringing my plants under the sun when I could. As a result my plants had 11-13 blades per leaf.
I had to move and now am growing under just HPS and am only getting 7-9 blades per leaf.

My question is, how does this affect breeding?

If I pollinated Plant A back in Fall in winter when it was 11 blades, will the progeny be different than the Plant A now with 9 blades being pollinated with the same pollen?

Same question applies to using a male clone that I collected pollen from with 13 blades and then collected pollen from a clone of the same plant that only shows 9 or 11 blades

Much Thanks

[Thcvhunter]

Thank you so much Sam for stopping by and clearing that up for me.
Yes, I am quite naive to the science of breeding and have much to read.... I just wanted to cheat a lil bit and ask the pros ;-)

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