[Budley Doright]

Originally Posted by Witheridge

Ive started to use soil for cloning and am hitting my intended cut location a week or two before with clone gel. You can see the affected part start to ready itself for throwing outroots so its kinda like the start of layering without the medium attached. So far so good and I seem to get a better success rate. Ive also layered before but just found it to be a bit much dicking around.

Tbh big clones - smaller clones are all the same to me.. I just find it more of a challenge to clone into soil hence the layering can be useful.

All the best

Actually that was one of the things I was looking at when I did the experiment......

I took the layers before I should have.....they werent fully rooted.....

But I wanted to see if the pretreated clones would root even if they were removed from the mom prior to rooting.....

They did...... all ended up rooting..... whether they were rooted or not......

The next step.....all layers will be given sufficient time to root well before removal from the plant.....


You may also want to look at wounding...... and ringing the future clone....to cause callus tissue...... or prerooting tissue....

[Drekoushranada]

I think I may give this a try this weekend. It looks promising.

[oti$]

What do you mean by air layering? I've read the thread a couple times over and I am not getting something.

[stoned-trout]

scrape area ,apply rooting hormone whatever... add moist moss or similar,wrap in saran wrap or similar ,wait for roots and keep moist.. a syringe is handy for adding moisture if needed...yeehaw .. that's it in a nutshell..could be handy for those with numbers limits that actually obey them..

[Budley Doright]

limits that actually obey them..

fish humor.....

I almost peed meself......

[Budley Doright]

The pictures are about large clones....but I was doing some work with airlayering as well

but my flash didnt go off....operator error.....

Here is what I did....

I did what is called ringing the plant.....

that means to take the bark off.....

you take the layer under that off.....the green layer.... ( I was fairly anal about this)

leaving the area in the ring white.....

I happened to have rapid rooter plugs...

clonex....

I split the plug to slip over the wound....then actually sewed it back up with needle and thread.... about 6 stitches.....


Then some plastic wrap to keep the moisture in.......

and very tight twist ties top and bottom.....

I did in fact use a syringe after several days....

The intent of the thread...to figure out which way for me to go to get large clones....

airlayers....

or large clones babied in a plastic bag or something....controlled humidity to prevent wilting...

If Im guessing.... I put my money on air layering....

To clarify....the experiment I plan to do...is not to compare large clones with large air layers....

it will compare large air layers with typical sized clones most folks use....

very interesting. wots air layering then

[HerBnGorE(illa)]

Air layering is making a shoot of a mother plant grow roots while still attatched to the mother. Basically instead of cutting a clone then rooting it, u root it and then cut it.

[HerBnGorE(illa)]

Btw, looking forward to some good info in this thread. When I'm cloning "normally" I have a high success rate, but often times the clone looks pretty crappy by the time they are rooted. it also seems to take me a lot longer than some of the people on here, which may be part of the problem.

I'm quite interested in the air layering as a way to keep the "clones" healthier. Plus it would free up space in my veg/clone area.

Curious about how long air layering takes in comparison to standard cloning practices. Maybe ill just try it out and see for myself, in my own situation.

I read a thread a while back of some lady on here using kyjelly mixed with rooting hormone to "prepare" the clone to be taken, but she was chopping once the "nubs" were visible.

Ill be keeping an eye on this thread! Hopefully ill be able to contribute something valuable in a couple weeks!

[Budley Doright]

The reason I say that Im anal about scraping the outside layers off leaving the white tissue only.....

when you do that.... whatever the plant gets thru the leaves....can no longer make it to the roots.....

That food builds up in some way.... and the air layer roots.... quite vigorously usually...

There are two techniques in horticulture.....

layering...and air layering....

layering is done under the ground.... air layer above the ground in the air....