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Old 03-14-2018, 10:31 PM #2571
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The inverted tray is so the cobs are more uniformly heated, limiting any direct contact to a heat source.

With that said I want to update my fav methods of cobbing:

New order -
1) Dehydrator - 2) Seed Mat & Dome - 3) Crock pot - 4) Yogurt Maker...

The question a couple days ago about the Dehydrator got me thinking more about the air movement and fan in my dehydrator and previous comments I made so it caused me to go out and do some additional testing, timing happens to work currently too


The past two days I've retested the Dehydrator vs the seed mat. Both can hold temps within 1 degree for an indefinite period of time. My Dehydrator though can hold this anywhere from 90F - 160F within one degree. I tested this time with two sensors and it was dead on to whatever temp I set it, when I tested it previously it had moved some, I think it was a faulty temp gauge. I actually also now think the moving air is a benefit and likely to create a more uniform process, think convection.

The time and temp is more about nuances and subtleties. As long as it's wet enough and warm enough > 90 IME, fermentation will start and do it's magic, all curing stages are key too.

I moved Dehydrator above Seed Mat as it has a much larger temp range which is equally accurate. It also doesn't have any off gassing and frankly I just hate the smell. I'm damn sure the Mason Jars and quality Vac bags I use don't let any air in/out but regardless the seed mat and the dome covering it start to smell like crap when heating up above 95F and if I don't need to breathe or smell it then I won't. The trade-off, electricity...

A crock pot just doesn't keep a tight enough temp range or allow for enough variability IME, even the digital ones.

I've bought and returned 2 yogurt makers. I wanted them to work but they are inaccurate, cheap, small and overall quality is terrible.

Thinking a little more.... I have a combo oven/range that is electric and the top range Gas (best of both) but those with a Gas oven and a Pilot.... Has anyone tested the temp in their oven closed with just the pilot on? Depending on your home temp I'd guess this could be an option too....? Anyone with a Gas Oven? Could be a nice option that folks already have, nice size ! Certainly good for stage 2 at the least
Thanks Led, great info. Going to research dehydrators. A quick search found one with a temp setting, but maybe they all have them, and clear plastic, so you can see what's going on. The temp setting has to be good hey.
I might do a side by side and see which one works best and also not put all my eggs in the one basket.
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Old 03-14-2018, 11:25 PM #2572
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Thanks Led, great info. Going to research dehydrators. A quick search found one with a temp setting, but maybe they all have them, and clear plastic, so you can see what's going on. The temp setting has to be good hey.
I might do a side by side and see which one works best and also not put all my eggs in the one basket.
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https://www.excaliburdehydrator.com/...oor-black.html

This is what I use.. I already had this for fall harvesting of fruits and veggies, always nice to have multi-purpose gadgets laying around . The one I have does not have clear plastic door, the trays easily slide out to see what's going on though.

It says 105-165 temp range on ad, not sure why, my dial goes down to 95 for living foods and even a little lower than that and I've tested it holding at that range just fine FYI
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Old 03-15-2018, 12:01 AM #2573
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A dehydrator, eh? I just happen to have one, and by George, I never thought about the temp control on it. I like this idea led05. It’ll be used for my next cobs, in about two weeks. The next harvest after that is the one I’m looking forward - Carnival, my personal favorite.

The other day one of the members mentioned a professional bread-proofing box. I haven’t looked into it yet, but if you do lots of baking..... yeah, me neither. Lol! The dehydrator wins the race.

45 minutes to go before I take them out of the sweat box. How long should they dry before I reseal for fermentation?
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Old 03-15-2018, 01:02 AM #2574
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A dehydrator, eh? I just happen to have one, and by George, I never thought about the temp control on it. I like this idea led05. It’ll be used for my next cobs, in about two weeks. The next harvest after that is the one I’m looking forward - Carnival, my personal favorite.

The other day one of the members mentioned a professional bread-proofing box. I haven’t looked into it yet, but if you do lots of baking..... yeah, me neither. Lol! The dehydrator wins the race.

45 minutes to go before I take them out of the sweat box. How long should they dry before I reseal for fermentation?
All going well you should see signs of perspiration having occurred inside the sealed bag.
If you can see water droplets the cob should be very wet as the water content of the buds is sweated out.
You could use your dehydrator to dry the cobs until the maize skin is dry to the touch.
Then reseal them still in the maize skin to carry on fermenting for a week or two.
Dont be a afraid to open them and take a look it doesn't hurt them at all.
In fact if you could post a before and after of the canary buds even at this early stage I could see where they are going.
This is a critical stage for the future of the cure and as such I would love to see where it is going.
Much respect for the work you are doing spreading the word in your forum. Your fellow members will thank you I am sure once they have tried this a few times.
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Old 03-15-2018, 01:37 AM #2575
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It'll be interesting to see if they'll sell.
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All going well you should see signs of perspiration having occurred inside the sealed bag.
If you can see water droplets the cob should be very wet as the water content of the buds is sweated out.
You could use your dehydrator to dry the cobs until the maize skin is dry to the touch.
Then reseal them still in the maize skin to carry on fermenting for a week or two.
Dont be a afraid to open them and take a look it doesn't hurt them at all.
In fact if you could post a before and after of the canary buds even at this early stage I could see where they are going.
This is a critical stage for the future of the cure and as such I would love to see where it is going.
Much respect for the work you are doing spreading the word in your forum. Your fellow members will thank you I am sure once they have tried this a few times.
My pleasure Tangwena. I hope I can get these up for you.

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Sorry. I'm still a little stumped on how to get these up.

I'll break out the dehydrator and get them dried so they can get sealed back up. I still have to spread the word about using the dehydrator to sweat. That's a great idea.

I'm so thankful you kept this passion alive long enough for me to find it. I maintain somewhere around 40 active threads over at 420 Mag, many in the medical forums, but I also maintain a slew of community grow journals. I'm known for having fun at this obsession we have with cannabis, and another member pointed me in your direction.

That kind soul will forever have a special place in my heart.

The Malawi cobs and canaries smell incredible. There's a sweet grass element to them. It's almost overpowering.
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Old 03-15-2018, 01:50 AM #2577
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I hit the timing right too. Today the sugar leaves were crispy.

TychoMonolyth, if you're referring to whether the 420 Mag crowd will take to these, they already have. This is my fastest moving thread, for the short time it's been up. Members are digging out their food savers and looking at their harvest schedules. The excitement is as high as I've seen in more than three years.

This is a curious bunch that won't hesitate to experiment. We're all gonna have a lot of fun with this, on both forums.
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It'll be interesting to see if they'll sell.
Ahhh.....you mean sell as a product. lol! That didn't even register until just now. Haha! I never think of cannabis in terms of a money crop, so it went right over my head. It would demand slick marketing, for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it show up in the artisan market.
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Old 03-15-2018, 03:18 AM #2579
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Tangwena,

Why did you shorten the sweat time? I think I remember you used to sweat for many days.
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I have Asian and African friends. I haven't told them about Cobs yet. I'll just throw one at them for fun. lol
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