[Tangwena]

Originally Posted by ZanzibarDawa

Well, without a lab the easiest way to test would be to eat a bit of cured cob and in the next experiment eat the same ammount of cured cob but this time heat it in the oven to make absolutely sure it is decarboxylated. If the first sample has the same or higher potency than the second sample it would prove my theory. As I have no cobs I need a guineapig https://www.icmag.com/ic/images/smilies/biggrin.gif ZD

I have decarbed bud before it only works on fresh dried buds in mature cured buds say 3 months old I found it destroyed the high and i didnt like it at all,
I now only use it to sample freshly dried buds and prefer to let my buds and cobs age naturaly. Unless you can get an oven that keeps the exact temp its too hit and miss
Cobbing is mainly for the smooth smoking and different taste it produces it does change the high too, not always stronger but definatly different, in a way that i prefer. it will not make weak weed good you need good weed to begin with.
Tabgwena

[Sforza]

Originally Posted by ZanzibarDawa

So if the fermentation would push the optimum decarboxylation rate up (maybe even near 100%?) this would mean more potent bud, in theory up to 30% stronger and maybe also reduced CBN levels.

Interesting theory, Z. At least is a plausible scientific theory for the phenomenon. If cobbing works, and we have plenty of anecdotal evidence that it does, then there must be something like you have proposed going on.

[ZanzibarDawa]

Originally Posted by Sforza

Interesting theory, Z. At least is a plausible scientific theory for the phenomenon. If cobbing works, and we have plenty of anecdotal evidence that it does, then there must be something like you have proposed going one.

I would really like to test that, but have no cob. Do you have any evidence if cobbing has an influence on the potency if eaten raw (no heat like with cookies or smoking), if my theory is correct it should be fully potent in its unheated form. If that is the case, it would also suggest that further heating has no positive effect, and probably a negative one as it would only degrade THC to CBN, which would be in line with what Tangwena mentioned. This would be much easier to test than an A/B separation of THC and THCA or external lab analysis....

[Tangwena]

Hi Zanzibar I have no access to testing in Australia so I cant help you, but anyone in the US who has a good cob result could do it. But that would be dependant on the cob being cured properly in the first place.
For now I will rely on my own testing, years of getting high as a bench mark, to know if it works.
But if you need to have lab results to put your mind at rest, first source your correctly cured and aged cob.
In the mean time I will rely on taste and effect to judge for myself. Good luck my friend.
tangwena

[Sforza]

I was just about to try doing a cob and then I read this post by Sam Skunkman and the article at the link he provided and it kind of took away my enthusiasm.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...2&postcount=97

Kind of a shame too, since I had just purchased a seal-a-meal for the project and had two and half ounces of ganja at just the right stage of dryness.

[Dave Coulier]

I dont see why your enthusiasm should be dampened. Sam's reply is to someone who suggested burying it in the ground. Maybe Sam has tried the vac-seal method before, maybe he hasn't, but why dont you try for yourself and be the final judge?

Ive tried it myself, and found it to be worth the effort and money spent on the supplies. My close friends have really favored the cob over regular jar-curred buds.

Its worth the effort, but it may take a few tries to get it right, but even a poorly done cob is still an improvement.

Originally Posted by Sforza

I was just about to try doing a cob and then I read this post by Sam Skunkman and the article at the link he provided and it kind of took away my enthusiasm.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...2&postcount=97

Kind of a shame too, since I had just purchased a seal-a-meal for the project and had two and half ounces of ganja at just the right stage of dryness.

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[Tangwena]

Hi dave i agree with you try it you have nothing to loose i am not selling anything, the only reason i posted this method was for others to experiment with the heads they so lovingly produce.
The results are very tasty treats that I have never had anyone refuse when I offer them.
For me the high becomes deep and magical when done right. To quote another member.
"when i start talking to myself i know i am high" quote Donald Mallard I think.
Well when I get the good sativa buds from a good grow, well cured in a nice cob, i dont just talk to myself i have friends to talk with as well, ha ha.
I never ever get the clarity and insight from dry buds.
And with all due respect to Sam i doubt that he has ever had a good malawi cob, if he has I apollagise in advance, but i have seen very worldly travelers reduced to babies after a couple of drags of the best real deal chapter five Malawi and I will stand by that statement.
Tangwena

[ZanzibarDawa]

Originally Posted by Sforza

I was just about to try doing a cob and then I read this post by Sam Skunkman and the article at the link he provided and it kind of took away my enthusiasm.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.ph...2&postcount=97

Kind of a shame too, since I had just purchased a seal-a-meal for the project and had two and half ounces of ganja at just the right stage of dryness.

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I wouldn't worry too much either. Tobacco is fermented too, no mold or bacteria problems there if done correctly. And all over the world people make silage, sauerkraut, wine, beer and other fermented products. When you control the environment you should well be able to control the process. As to resin quality, who knows without lab tests...but many experiences in this thread suggest an enhancement of quality and I have found some theories that this might well be scientifically explainable. I'd just go for the cobs! ZD

[Sforza]

Well, you guys have talked me back into it. I was going to dry the buds out, but they are now slightly moist and tacky after being jarred for 24 hours to get them evenly moist between the buds and between the center of the bud and the outside of the buds. I think that they are just moist enough to sweat when sealed up. I will put them in some loose plastic in a warm place for 24 hours to get the process started before I put them in a vacuum bag.

Once the cob is in the vacuum bag, since it is winter and quite cool where I am located, I can put the cob in a cool dark place for a week before checking on it or I can put the cob in a warm place, given the fact that I have lights and drivers going that put out a bit of heat. Which is preferable? It seems putting it in a cool place would simulate burying the cob while putting it in a warm place would simulate putting the cob in the thatch of a hut. Have you tried both and found one being better than the other? Is the cool dark spot better for a longer slower cure, which makes for a better cob?

[Tangwena]

Hi Sforza good on you for giving it a go, seeing as it is winter I would keep it in a warm place as a cool place in my part of the world is still warm compared to winter.
You have nothing to worry about and plenty to gain.
Tangwena