[Dakuteface]

Hello there

(Noob in every way, apologies, thread may need moving sections).

Tent - DR90 rev2.5 (90x90x185/3x3x6).

Light - VIPAR B3x3 675w (actual draw 340w). Maybe a couple of added cfl's.

Medium - Soil.

Pots - hopefully you can help with this?!
Filter - hopefully you can help with this?!
Fan - hopefully you can help with this?!

Summer ambient daytime temps sway around 20°c/68f. Currently approx 23°c/74f.

Considering the environment, please advise on your recommendations regarding the inclusion, size, power, manufacturer, retailer etc of the following -

- Carbon filter?
- Circulation fan?
- Any other fans, intake/extraction?
- Heating?

The carbon filter kit would be for odour control & fresh co2 only & the fan for circulation only, should heat extraction not be required. Unless anyone can say better?

It seems a 4" would be more than enough but info so far still hints at maybe a 6". On top of this, other info says considering the set up environment this would all be a waste of money as a filter wouldn't be needed & there are much cheaper ways to ventilate, any suggestions or clarification on this please?

Odour control is required tho.

Also, if filter is needed, should centrifugal or axial fan be used??

- Pots - Again, importantly, considering the environment, which type would be most suitable?

So, IYO which would be the cheapest sufficient options to complete set up in said environment please?

All constructive input welcome & much appreciated


Ubuntu for Peace

[Dakuteface]

["HEMPEROR"]

sorry i have no EXP with led,s, good luck with your grow tho!
i sugest asking for it to be moved to the grow diary thread, pointless posting it here this place is dead.

[UptownChill]

Good morning I'm a noob here but not new to growing and am familiar with your style. I've been growing in a home made can for years, and counting time and money, I say just buying a tent is the smartest way to go. Some things to consider with a tent are the limitations. Size and space. Since the space is enclosed, you could have heat issues. Therefore LEDs are perfect for small space grows because they don't run as hot as CFL or HID.

I've been growing with LED for years. I've used generic China models and a very old one from Mars. They work fine. Probably not the best, but cheap and adequate. I haven't used the one you described so, I would look for journals on the web to see if others have had a good experience with that model. There are a lot of generic models out there that are less effective. Make sure the manufacturer has a decent rep. But, yes. I Leo like LED.

Carbon filter and fan. Good idea. Depending on the strain, marijuana gives off a very distinctive odor. I've grown strains that would literally stink so bad it would permeate the entire house. I would say odor control is necessary for all growers indoor. And a carbon scrubber is the best choice. I also use an O3 generator outside the grow area to capture those rogue odors the carbon filter missed.

In a small enclosed space the 4 inch with an inline fan, not a duct fan would probably do just fine. Consider you will pay about $120 for the combo unit. But, I've been looking at the 6" combo with a dimmer from eBay for a little bit more. Like $160. No comment about specific brands since I haven't tried them all. I just usually go with what's cheap on eBay if I can find a decent review about that brand with Google.

Pots. I've only ever used generic plastic pots and buckets. I haven't tried the smart pots or anything. I do Hempy buckets with 3-5 gallons added perlite and vermiculite. It's cheap, and works great.

I don't really worry to much about CO2. Never has been an issue for me. I try to keep temps below 80 and consider 85 the danger zone. I use simple General Hydroponics 3 part or 2 part nutes. None of that fancy stuff with all the added supplements. It works great.

I think mostly you are thinking on te right track. I would consider reading as many reviews as possible about the specific products and name brands you are looking at. Also try to weed out the crap because it's difficult to find a truly objective review these days. Good luck bro.

[Dakuteface]

All things considered, it appears air pots would suit this environment most.

In which case, less cfm is even more applicable, is this correct?

[UptownChill]

Hmm. Don't know. The reason I would choose a 6" with speed controller(said dimmable in my 1st response) is because you could dial in the air you need. And the supply would be more than ample. Just a suggestion. Not meant to be construed as the best advice.

[Dakuteface]

sorry i have no EXP with led,s, good luck with your grow tho!
i sugest asking for it to be moved to the grow diary thread, pointless posting it here this place is dead.

Thanks for the reply Hemperor!

& thanks for the advice

[Dakuteface]

Good evening Uptown!

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply & advise

Apologies for the delayed response.

Heat shouldn't really b an issue in the environment.

Yes, initially the 6" with control was favoured.

This was before soil as grow method & medium were decided. Initially it was hydro with all the heat producing gadgets that go with that!

But considering the environment - cooler climate, lower ambient temp, led - cooler interior temp, cooler grow method, size, it could b deemed overkill.

Soil was eventually chosen because of the cool temps & lights being LED!

Which I know sounds completely wrong!

As with most elements of a grow, there r so many variables to each element & so many different ways they can each react to each other. U can go back & forth & come full circle so many times navigating this!

Initially, noob logic says that as LED is so much cooler & soil is less aerated despite it being a warmer medium, hydro would b the way to go.

BUT, after watching an informative video on LED grows (ProSource Worldwide Guide for LED Grow Lights) it totally switched things up!

& in such a way that, I feel, is perfect for a noob & much easier on the purse!

As medium is soil in cool environment, air pots seem most suited (with an added little nod to autoflowers!).

Hence considering even less cfm, altho thinking about it air pots r much more enclosed than I first thought & DIY air pots with less coverage may b used. Either way, considering the small extra cost to erring on the side of caution, better to b safe than sorry & not end up restricted.

All this tinkering with the balance! Gta try to synch in the cheapest sufficient way tho.

I agree with u on the control. Hopefully this will b affordable!

Air pots & a 6"(slightly higher cfm) with control seem to b the right choice.

Just gta get it in synch me thinks!

Hang on, is that what u meant by 'dialled in', a term I've seen so many times during research?! Is it getting everythin in synch?

When I said 6" I actually meant higher cfm, were u referring exclusively to the physical size??

Just for reference I'd like to add that depending on cost, I do construe uptowns suggestion as the best advice, for these particular circumstances. Adaptable & controllable

Apologies for drawn out reply, I think it's important to make content a little more helpful for reference purposes, especially for noobs.

Altho it seems u r also similarly considerate!

Thanks for ur kindness in responding bro & thanks for responding from spirit rather than ego! Its admirable to b honest about opinion rather than state things as unwavering fact!

BTW, I'm a sista rather than a bruvva!

Namaste

Ubuntu for Peace

[Dakuteface]

Another reason for the 6" - a cfl or 2 could b a great addition to this set up.

[Dakuteface]

Just to add for ref.

VIPAR r a legit UK company.

Great for a European purchase!

I'm pretty sure, & have read same, the eBay seller is affiliated.

Even better - If u go to the ebay store & refine to auction only u can get an amazing deal & that is an understatement!