Nice updates, thanks. They look really healthy and happy, looking forward to seeing how this pans out.

[CimeTempestose]

Originally Posted by Baron Greenback

Nice updates, thanks. They look really healthy and happy, looking forward to seeing how this pans out.

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[idiit]

Senegal Haze is from Afropips

(Neville's Haze x Super Silver Haze) x Cassamance Senegalese ('scuse spelling - Southern Senegal anyways) ... not sure which was mum, which dad

^ ngakpa real seed company https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....al+haze&page=5




^ nguni seeds (afropips) delivered.



^ gambia/senagalese ( casamance region)

Senegal Haze, super sweet and exotic perfume in the garden, totally intoxicating like so few strains have exhibited outdoors. The colors of the red stems with the purple floral clusters highlighted with the orange and white pistils.. Amazing looking plant with a potent trippy effect that makes you sweat from the intensity of the high

https://www.****************/forums/s...-thread-9.html

Senegal Haze: Oh, my God. That weed scared the shit out of me. I had constant audio hallucinations, including a horn that kept playing in the background etc. Gave my stash to some friend in an act of mere cowardness

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....al+haze&page=5

[Lester Beans]

Those DP look exactly like my old cut. DP has sligbtly broad leaves when young then will become more narrow as she grows. It is know for having a wider leaf than normal for a pure sativa, as most African strains seem to.

Loving the health of those plants! Nice job!

Best,
Les

[Dave Coulier]

Originally Posted by sdd420

Man those look so healthy and the spacing looks good so far. Can't wait to see how they grow keep up the good work, this is my new favorite thread. Peace sdd

Thanks for joining in Sdd420. Im glad you like the thread so much.

The growth rates and spacing are really nice on the Thai. Everything is going according to plan for now at least.

Originally Posted by Mesosphere

I think I read somewhere where Phoenix haze was crossed with either Neville haze or ssh or some haze that was found on the floor after the pigs raided a spot... will look for it and post it

Yes, I read that same thread. I also read the Mr. Nice Grail thread that discusses Senegal Haze, and it all seems like a fairy tale princess story about the origins of Phoenix Haze. Seeds left on the ground after a bust of Dutchgrown, someone relcaims them, and somehow those seeds end up finding their way to afroman after that to be then used in a cross of his????? Or were there even more steps involved between DG and Afroman, or none at all. Ill go with the latter.

Snowhigh even asks Nevil if Phoenix Haze is Nevils Haze x Nevils Haze:

Senegel Haze a little history gathered from here and there. The Senegel Haze is a cross of a Senegelese sativa from Zamalito crossed to Phoenix Haze. Phoenix Haze is actually Nevilles Haze crossed to Nevilles Haze with a slight chance of Nevilles Haze x Super Silver Haze. This Nevilles Haze line wasn't from Green House or Mr. Nice seeds but handed from Neville Schoenmachers private stash, from Neville himself. This stash of F1 seeds was handed to Dutchgrown to make more Nevilles Haze, unfortunately the projects was busted and only the seeds on the floor were left. These seeds collected were given to JLP to make more, thus calling it Phoenix Haze.

Is the above true Nevil? At least the part about you providing Dutch Grown some of your original Nevilles Haze around 2000-2002?

and all Nevil can say is , "It looks like Haze" while completely avoiding answering anything Snowhigh asked. Ive heard narcissistic used to describe Nevil before. Would it be narcissistic to take credit for someone elses work by saying "Looks like haze to me"?

Ive pm'd Ngapka, because he seems to be the one who first started the origins of P. Haze being Nevils Haze x Nevils Haze back in 2007. Maybe he read it on the net somewhere and then shared it, or maybe he had first hand knowledge from Afroman himself, but not even Afropips.moonfruit.com ever mentioned the word Nevils Haze in the description of Senegal Haze.

Originally Posted by idiit

^ ngakpa real seed company https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....al+haze&page=5


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^ nguni seeds (afropips) delivered.

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^ gambia/senagalese ( casamance region)



https://www.****************/forums/s...-thread-9.html


https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread....al+haze&page=5

Best of luck with those beans Idiit. I hope you do get something great. I wonder how closely they are related to what Afropips was offering when he was active. They certainly dont have the excellent packaging of Afropip breeder packs.

Originally Posted by Lester Beans

Those DP look exactly like my old cut. DP has sligbtly broad leaves when young then will become more narrow as she grows. It is know for having a wider leaf than normal for a pure sativa, as most African strains seem to.

Loving the health of those plants! Nice job!

Best,
Les

What you say is inline with a couple other reports Ive come across regarding the leaves being thick indica like when young, and becoming more narrow as they mature. Were still sometime away from having mature plants though.

Thanks for the praise everyone. Im hoping to turn out some beautiful practical indoor thais and Durban Poison, so others will feel encouraged to try some long-flowering sativas, but only if your patient.

[who dat is]

I love durban, I'll be sticking around for this one.

[idiit]

^^ dave coulier, tremendous stuff on phoenix haze. nice job.

Best of luck with those beans Idiit. I hope you do get something great. I wonder how closely they are related to what Afropips was offering when he was active. They certainly dont have the excellent packaging of Afropip breeder packs.

^ my thoughts as well.

at least I beat the odds and actually got them. look at the sapo reviews:

Overview of South African Courier Companies
On time
56
One day early
8
Late, but on the right day
17
One day late or more
133
Never Delivered
263

https://trackmyparcel.co.za/track

[Dave Coulier]

Originally Posted by who dat is

I love durban, I'll be sticking around for this one.

You and me both pal. Thankfully the DP should be done by 120days or so says the strain description, but either way faster than the Thai's. The DP will probably be finishing up a 2-4 month cure before the Thai are coming down.

Originally Posted by idiit

^^ dave coulier, tremendous stuff on phoenix haze. nice job.


^ my thoughts as well.

at least I beat the odds and actually got them. look at the sapo reviews:

https://trackmyparcel.co.za/track

Ouch, so many never delivered.. Count your lucky stars then you got yours. Plan on starting the DP or MG anytime soon?

[Dave Coulier]

As I let drop earlier, I have 7 new Afropip Durban Poison seedlings in my garden. Much better germination results this time around than last.
7/9(77.77%) for the 2nd batch. 11 plants total to find something special in.

They're around 4 days old now, and Ive kept them further from the light to start out this time. I wanted them to get a little leggy, so I could transplant them deeper into their next container. 3 of the other ones are so compact their bottom set of leaves are almost right on top of the soil. Makes it a PITA when it comes to watering.

Check out the lean on the plants on the right side. Ive read the last 6 inches of of flouro's on both ends have a drop off in usable light for the plants. Evidently clear by the pics. The ones on the left have much less lean. Right outside the 6" range.











They've gotten leggy enough for me now, so Ive raised them up towards the light. They're around 6" inches away right now. They'll catch up eventually. This definitely isn't a race to the finish with this line. Its a nice long peaceful relaxing stroll.

[Dave Coulier]

I like lively discussions, so I present a question to all of you. When you transplant, do you roughen/loosen up the rootball in anyways, or leave it intact as it is?

When I transplanted the Thai & DP on the 13th, I roughed up the rootballs at the bottom, breaking up good chunks of roots that had matted on top of each other. I also sloughed off a thin layer of media on all sides of the rootball with the palm of my hands to remove the ends of the roots. My reasoning is this will stimulate root growth. The sloughing technique is something Ive only recently began doing. We will see how successful it was on the Day 28 update, which is just 3 days away.


Ive seen it recommended to roughen up the rootball before transplanting, but how do you do it?