[Tommy G]

Originally Posted by DeceiverZ

Yes! Tommy G we are on the same page my friend!

I also think a lot of people, and companies alike, view breeding/seed vending as an excellent opportunity to make lots of money...aaand where there's lots of money incentive involved, many breeders make "questionable" decisions regarding the seed stocks they produce and sell. The forums are littered with controversies involving breeders -which is a sad thing for the cannabis community overall... However, all this noise creates lots of opportunities for the players in the breeding/seed industry to differentiate themselves by providing quality genetics at reasonable prices. This is all that most people want anyways.

In my opinion, the breeders who are looking to build a reputation, not a fortune, are the ones to look out for. As of late it appears many of these are originating from outside of the USA. The concept of the "Fast Version" isn't something that's caught on in the USA... yet. I bet the breeders there will eventually catch on and start developing their own fast version strains. The fact that Sweet Seeds is ahead of the game in this regard, has already earned my respect and admiration!

-DZ

Very true my friend, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Regarding F1 Fast Version strains I can tell you that one year after Sweet Seeds released this new concept, other spanish seedbanks started to have their own F1 Fast Version strains in their collections. Which is a good thing. We knew that it would happen because we were aware of the quality of these genetics. So if it happens it's just one more confirmation that we are right and that the first year was enough to convince almost everyone that grew them.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by paulo73

Lovely thread you got in here.
I´m glad i found it.
Obrigado por partilhares.

Outro maconheiro!!! Grande Paulo, prazer em ver-te por aqui

Cheers and big hugs for you guys. Sweet smokes!

tommy

[DeceiverZ]

Originally Posted by Tommy G

Very true my friend, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Regarding F1 Fast Version strains I can tell you that one year after Sweet Seeds released this new concept, other spanish seedbanks started to have their own F1 Fast Version strains in their collections. Which is a good thing. We knew that it would happen because we were aware of the quality of these genetics. So if it happens it's just one more confirmation that we are right and that the first year was enough to convince almost everyone that grew them.

Cheers!

tommy

You're absolutely right about the Fast Versions being convincing!! Have you ever tried Sour Diesel as a strain? Or how about Kosher Kush? If these or similar were ever available in FV, I can tell you they would be very popular in the USA, especially around the East Coast! Anything stemming from the ChemDog lineage with a sour undertone would be awesome as a FV since, from my experience, these genetics often go 11 weeks+

One more question.. do you know if Sweet Seeds has any plans to create FV's of their red or dark devil varieties? I would be very interested in these if/when they ever were released!

Originally Posted by paulo73

Lovely thread you got in here.
I´m glad i found it.
Obrigado por partilhares.

Oi Paulo! Tão bom ver um outro Português aqui. Espero que você aproveite o show.

-DZ

[Tommy G]

Cheers again buddy!

I never tried Kosher Kush but I already tried Sour Diesel and more or less I know what you're talking about. Anyways we have strains that could be compared to some extent with these two that you mention. I'm talking about Ice Cool (our NYC Diesel selection) or Killer Kush F1 FV (our OG Kush selection in F1 Fast Version).

I know that this isn't exactly what you're talking about but on the other hand the same growers who love these strains could also enjoy at least some phenos of Ice Cool or Killer Kush F1 FV.

Our breeders will probably keep on making F1 Fast Version's from most (if not all) of our strains. And I heard they are also working with photoperiod-dependent red flowered strains, so that if all goes well something like that could be released in one of the next two seasons. But it's yet to early to tell, because if something on the tests is not what they are expecting, it can be aborted and then it would have to start again from the begining.

But yes, if a red photoperiod-dependent strain comes up it will probably be a F1 Fast Version strain. For example, Killer Kush is the only photoperiod-dependent genetic that Sweet Seeds released after the F1 Fast Version concept reached the market, and it was a Killer Kush F1 FV since day one, we never had a "non F1 FV" Killer Kush.

See you around, sweet smokes!

tommy

[DoubleTripleOG]

Originally Posted by Tommy G

Cheers again buddy!

I never tried Kosher Kush but I already tried Sour Diesel and more or less I know what you're talking about. Anyways we have strains that could be compared to some extent with these two that you mention. I'm talking about Ice Cool (our NYC Diesel selection) or Killer Kush F1 FV (our OG Kush selection in F1 Fast Version).

I know that this isn't exactly what you're talking about but on the other hand the same growers who love these strains could also enjoy at least some phenos of Ice Cool or Killer Kush F1 FV.

Our breeders will probably keep on making F1 Fast Version's from most (if not all) of our strains. And I heard they are also working with photoperiod-dependent red flowered strains, so that if all goes well something like that could be released in one of the next two seasons. But it's yet to early to tell, because if something on the tests is not what they are expecting, it can be aborted and then it would have to start again from the begining.

But yes, if a red photoperiod-dependent strain comes up it will probably be a F1 Fast Version strain. For example, Killer Kush is the only photoperiod-dependent genetic that Sweet Seeds released after the F1 Fast Version concept reached the market, and it was a Killer Kush F1 FV since day one, we never had a "non F1 FV" Killer Kush.

See you around, sweet smokes!

tommy

Are you at liberty to let us know what cut of OG Kush you used for killer kush fv? Been really interested in it for a while now.Always nice things be able tell my friends exactly what the parents of it are.

I have already flowered a Sweet Cheese fv and it was really nice. Got a Cream Caramel fv flowering right now. I've grown a couple of your autos as well.

[BruceBanner]

Very nice plants you have!

From Sweet Seeds I had just auto Jack47, but the smell was the best of all automatics I had, it's pretty indescribable smell, like some apothecary stuff, but oh boy it's so nice and addictive and mouthwatering, you just have to smell it everyday multiple times, think I vaped all smell from the jar with my nose Also the effect of auto Jack47 was good, so your plant can be only better

[DeceiverZ]

Originally Posted by Tommy G

Cheers again buddy!

I never tried Kosher Kush but I already tried Sour Diesel and more or less I know what you're talking about. Anyways we have strains that could be compared to some extent with these two that you mention. I'm talking about Ice Cool (our NYC Diesel selection) or Killer Kush F1 FV (our OG Kush selection in F1 Fast Version).

I know that this isn't exactly what you're talking about but on the other hand the same growers who love these strains could also enjoy at least some phenos of Ice Cool or Killer Kush F1 FV.

Our breeders will probably keep on making F1 Fast Version's from most (if not all) of our strains. And I heard they are also working with photoperiod-dependent red flowered strains, so that if all goes well something like that could be released in one of the next two seasons. But it's yet to early to tell, because if something on the tests is not what they are expecting, it can be aborted and then it would have to start again from the begining.

But yes, if a red photoperiod-dependent strain comes up it will probably be a F1 Fast Version strain. For example, Killer Kush is the only photoperiod-dependent genetic that Sweet Seeds released after the F1 Fast Version concept reached the market, and it was a Killer Kush F1 FV since day one, we never had a "non F1 FV" Killer Kush.

See you around, sweet smokes!

tommy

Good to hear about the Killer Kush and the Ice Cool having some of my favorite characteristics! I'm looking forward to trying the Ice Cool and Sweet Cheese strains after this run.

By the way, here's a little update on the Killer Kush FV clones. These all came from a single seed, a free one that came with my order from Attitude and what ultimately started my down this Sweet Seed journey. The original Mom was gifted to a fellow grower who will be harvesting her in just two more weeks! I will be visiting his garden to take some pics of the Killer Kush before chop and provide everyone here with a smoke report after its cured.

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Of course having just one seed limits the genetic lottery of receiving a really spectacular mom, but this single Killer Kush impressed me enough even in VEG to make me explore and learn more about the company that created it!

The red and dark varieties in Fast Version I imagine will be a big success and I can't wait to get them once released. Pass on a big hello for me to the breeders behind these FV strains. I'm glad they were able to develop such a great concept which many people like me can enjoy.

-DZ

[DeceiverZ]

Originally Posted by BruceBanner

Very nice plants you have!

From Sweet Seeds I had just auto Jack47, but the smell was the best of all automatics I had, it's pretty indescribable smell, like some apothecary stuff, but oh boy it's so nice and addictive and mouthwatering, you just have to smell it everyday multiple times, think I vaped all smell from the jar with my nose Also the effect of auto Jack47 was good, so your plant can be only better

Thanks BruceBanner! much appreciated my friend.

I can tell you that the Jack47 FV's have the best roots overall. This typically translates into bigger yields so I'm hoping to get big apothecary type buds to smoke. I'm now using the freezer cure to ensure the smelliest and highest terpene content in my buds.. Also, if you haven't tried it yet, I recommend always vacuum sealing buds in jars then leaving in freezer long term for best quality.

Hopefully I can share a smoke report and share my take on the Jack47 with you.

-DZ

[BruceBanner]

Dude vacuum sealing is out of question, how should I then smell it lol

[DeceiverZ]

Originally Posted by BruceBanner

Dude vacuum sealing is out of question, how should I then smell it lol

But that's what I'm saying! Preserve that odor for as long as possible! I keep the big jar of buds vacuum sealed in the freezer and only take some out to refill my smaller jar that gets opened everyday. The day jar is always a pleasure to smell and open and I usually keep about 5 days worth of smoke in it.

This method is super easy and freezing in a vacuum preserves even the smallest nuances, flavors and smells. Give it a go someday, I promise you won't regret it my friend.

-DZ

[Tommy G]

Originally Posted by DoubleTripleOG

Are you at liberty to let us know what cut of OG Kush you used for killer kush fv? Been really interested in it for a while now.Always nice things be able tell my friends exactly what the parents of it are.

I have already flowered a Sweet Cheese fv and it was really nice. Got a Cream Caramel fv flowering right now. I've grown a couple of your autos as well.

Hi DoubleTripleOG!

Thanks for your visit and comments

As I'm not a breeder and all the info I have is the one that my colleagues (breeders and bosses) release. Basically our bredeers managed to get an elite clone of OG Kush from California, they enjoyed that cut and bred it with a 3rd generation autoflowering selected genetic line to get it into an F1 Fast Version strain.

Here's what is said in our catalog:




Here's a small product presentation that was published in a magazine:

Killer Kush F1 Fast Version

Killer Kush F1 Fast Version (variety SWS52) is the resulting hybrid from the cross between an elite clone of the famous OG Kush and a 3rd generation autoflowering genetic line selected for a very fast flowering. The plants grow with impressive hybrid vigour since the first days of life. From the strong main stem this line develops multiple firm side branches, capable to hold the solid flowers produced by this beauty from the Sweet Seeds genetic collection.

Featuring short internodal distance and a very homogeneous structure, we can use this genetic for SOG grows that are usually ready in less than 50 days of flowering. As an alternative to SOG, it can be vegetated for a longer time if we want to get an exceptional production per plant ratio. Not forgetting that this genetic line is an unbeatable solution in outdoor grows as it allows for one of the earliest harvests in the market of photoperiod dependent strains.
Killer Kush F1 Fast Version is an indica dominant line with a slightly citric sweet taste and sublime exotic hints.

This genetic allows for a very strong and medicinal effect that is experienced at the body level immediately after smoking or vaporizing its resinous buds, while the sensations of mental relaxation arrive a few minutes later and last for a couple of hours. With Killer Kush F1 Fast Version, Sweet Seeds presents us with a plant of orgasmic taste and long lasting effect that delights the soul and calms the mind.

Indica/Sativa: 80%/20%
Indoor Yield: 400-600 g/m2
Outdoor Yield: 350-600 g/plant
Indoor Flowering: 7 weeks
Outdoor Harvest: Early september

I know you may find that a bit of info is missing as there's no info about the genetic of the 3rd generation autoflowering selected line used, but this info is not shared in our catalog to avoid that the client gets a wrong idea about the strain. It is like this because the only trait that passes from the autoflowering selected genetic line to the final hybrid is the fast flowering trait.

By other words, the final product does not get other traits from that parental besides the capacity to flower as fast as an autoflowering strain. So, if we named the genetic line used then the grower would be driven to think that the final product has some characteristics from that parental, which would not be true.

So I personally see it as a great OG Kush cut in an ultra fast flowering version.

Sweet smokes!

tommy