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Old 04-23-2015, 02:43 AM #1
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?'s about Ghana

Why are more people not growing this variety?

I have only seen 1-2 logs with rudingers being the most recent.

Am I the only 1 that thinks this is a special and rare African Sativa?

We already know much about the Malawis/Swazis/Congolese/Nigerians, etc...

I would like to start a small breeding project with this strain. My goal would be to isolate plants with rare and special Sativa characteristics.

I am contemplating picking up a couple of packs of the Ghana Landrace offered.

Is there a lot of variation of phenotypes in this variety?

Is 11/13 for flower recommended for this variety versus the conventional 12/12?

I would also like to cross any fast finishers with some Bangi Haze I have for a nice, fast finishing Sativa hybrid.

I really would like more details on the growth structure, aromas, and a more in-dept understanding of the effects/potency.

Is there a ceiling on potency? Is the effect more racy/electric or more dreamy/floaty? Is there any Euphoria or is it more introspective.

What kind of Sativa is this really?

I read in some places that this strain may be very high in THCV, is this true?

What about CBD levels? I'm looking for a low CBD strain the counteract the ceiling effect that many of our hybrids have today.

I'm a patient grower and would like to grow a 16+ week Sativa.

Can anyone provide any guidance? Have a nice day.
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probably a lot has to do with Ghana not being a commercial indoor strain. not really suited to id imo but can be successful. lots of options for the indoor sativa growers besides Ghana.

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Ghana was made available late 2013 iirc. I got one of the first shipments in early july and was fortunate to have one nice female complete flowering. the Ghana did not smoke special until it got a decent cure on her in my case. maybe my post before Ghana had some cure had to do some with her not getting more runs. Ghana is special. unique terpenes, great high. dreamy, floaty, euphoric.

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I ran a few and did see some variation but all seemed extreme sativa.

you might be the one growing Ghana out indoors and posting for others to learn from. someone has to be an early tester.
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Old 04-24-2015, 03:20 AM #3
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probably a lot has to do with Ghana not being a commercial indoor strain. not really suited to id imo but can be successful. lots of options for the indoor sativa growers besides Ghana.
I see what you're saying and agree otherwise. But I have a pretty strong light source in a confined area. I run a ceramic metal halide bulb and the spectrum seems akin to flower some Sativas out. But I understand that it will never be what it could be under the natural sun, soil, environment. Is this enough to warrant me not trying to tame it indoors?...not in my opinion.

I've got a fair amount of experience with extreme LST methods to control plants. I am thinking about starting/finishing in 1/2 gallon square pots. 12/12 or 11/13 from seed. I'm not really going after quantity, rather selection/breeding.

I'm willing to give it a go if the plant is really rare and has special Sativa qualities.

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Ghana was made available late 2013 iirc. I got one of the first shipments in early july and was fortunate to have one nice female complete flowering. the Ghana did not smoke special until it got a decent cure on her in my case. maybe my post before Ghana had some cure had to do some with her not getting more runs. Ghana is special. unique terpenes, great high. dreamy, floaty, euphoric.
Can you describe the terpenes in you opinion? Is it cirtus, woody, incense, etc? I like the effect you are describing? How long did you cure for if you don't mind me asking? I can store some away for 4-6 months as I'v read that is recommended to really bring out the profile of the plant in question.

When did you pull your Ghana ladies? Did you go for clear/cloudy, cloudy, or cloudy/amber? I am thinking about going clear/cloudy because I believe that as the buds will cure, the trichomes will also slowly mature, slightly degrade. I understand clear trics are mostly thcv...With that train of thought, as the trics, buds mature over those long months...wouldn't THCV start converting into THC as part of the cannabanoid degradation chain? Also to note, I am really after a low CBD strain, so I would rather pull early than late. No amber allowed!

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I ran a few and did see some variation but all seemed extreme sativa.

you might be the one growing Ghana out indoors and posting for others to learn from. someone has to be an early tester.
I can take on that challenge. Unfortunately, by nature, I am a detail freak as you can see. I like to have a strong knowledge base about something before I do it. That way, I am prepared for whatever my plants throw my way.

I'm sure all you other growers know what I'm saying.

I'm placing my order tonight.

I might journal it. I unfortunately have a small grow space and I doubt anyone would be interested in my journal.

We'll see what happens.

Thanks for your response and experience shared with me idiit. I really appreciate it.

Have a good evening!
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I believe the cmh used correctly distance wise could yield great results indoors. several of the top ic indoor growers are having great success with led. i'm strictly outdoors bud.

the terps are magnificent if you go for old skool type stuff. incense, burnt hair, spices that now to me epitomize Africa for some reason. the terps are wild, untamed, different. not like south American nor indonesia or Nepalese. a lot of the Africa strains have the woody, earthy, musky, hashy terps. not Ghana. totally different.

the Ghana smoke got a lot better for me after 5 mth. cure.

I tried growing out Ghana again last year but i'm od guerilla and half my plants ( not seeds, plants that made it to being plants) don't make it every year. i'm growing Ghana again this year.

outdoors I pull based on bud feel, not visuals. I've been growing almost 30 years outdoors and even though others think this is stupid based on experience it's the best indicator for me. I go for crunchy outside, firm inside for even the extreme sativas. there's a feel (just like a nice tit in your palm that has a feel) no, I don't go for "crunchy tits! . that feel does not lie. watch old women at the farmers market. this is how they judge fruits and veggies as well. i'll probably get some lol's on this one and that's ok.

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^ my personal take on 'amber' is that it's most useful on the knock down indica dom strains. Ghana is dreamy, upbeat, euphoric.

the forum's strength is many growers (not one or two) posting their personal grow experiences. we want your report. it's your contribution to the knowledge base.
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Old 04-29-2015, 05:47 AM #5
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Texan,

I love your enthusiasm. Thats awesome you want this strain. You mentioned preservation then mentioned making crosses.... which one is more important to you?

You need to do a lot more research on cannabinoids and how thye are created and how they change.

cannabivarins are VERY different from cannabinoids. So THCV does not convert into THC nor vice versa. Clear heads have NO THCV unless that strain produces THCV. I'm assuming somebody read that THCV gives a "Rush" of a high and can be edgy, and then read that harvesting early results in a "rush" and an edgy high and assumed causation. But that statement is wrong.

CBG said Ghana tested high in THCV but so did their Malawi (and I think the Malawi was the highest, IIRC - but i never do).

I hope you do preserve the Ghana line and submit beans into the Server Auction for us to play with.
Anytime you work with wild/landrace genetics make sure you have planned out your goals before you start. (do hermies matter? what does your final plant grow/ smoke like? How long does it flower? How true to Ghana is it going to be down the road?)

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Ghana is fairly new for all of CBGs strains (i think its the newest release?). iv really been wanting to get some but im financially not able. need a new car and need to move in a few months :P

my guess why more people dont grow it would be 1 of 3 reasons: long flower, no commercial yield, and less interest in Landrace strains. not many wanna risk growing anything that they arent sure will get them the best quality in the shortest amount of time. prohibition type thinking is still prevalent in our culture
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