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Old 04-14-2015, 03:19 AM #1
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What happens with feminized pollen on a different female plant variety of marijuana?

What happens if you colloidal silver spray a female plant, collect the pollen, and then pollinate a different female plant variety of marijuana?

Do you end up with a crossbreed made up of both mothers traits? if so how does that work? female on female action...
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Your guess is correct.
You will have a fem F1 cross.
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Old 04-15-2015, 09:43 PM #3
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Never tried it personally, but to take the orignal post one step further. If neither female is a true female, but rather feminized stock both lacking a male co-factor is it fair to anticipate a higher ratio of hermaphroditism. If so then might this be the source of misinformation regarding breeding habits and the tired herm rumors which originate from using feminized seeds to breed?
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You'll get feminized seeds.Wich will have characteristics of both plants used. Just like making a cross with m/f.
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Old 04-25-2015, 03:39 PM #5
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You'll get feminized seeds.Wich will have characteristics of both plants used. Just like making a cross with m/f.
Now I am too curious, reversing doesn't seem too stressful, but in that reverse I speculated it might compound stressors or recess quicker if meeting another reversed fem in a cross; the alleged falsity being MADC acts as stability in a true cross.

Theoretically its understood that inter-sex is a genetic propensity, but I have to end this skepticism and try this out, track the homogeny median for kicks and maybe a few can get put through the ringer just to see if they trigger easier than a true female under the same stress from the same f1.
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Now I am too curious, reversing doesn't seem too stressful, but in that reverse I speculated it might compound stressors or recess quicker if meeting another reversed fem in a cross; the alleged falsity being MADC acts as stability in a true cross.

Theoretically its understood that inter-sex is a genetic propensity, but I have to end this skepticism and try this out, track the homogeny median for kicks and maybe a few can get put through the ringer just to see if they trigger easier than a true female under the same stress from the same f1.
I like where your going with this. What's MADC?
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I like where your going with this. What's MADC?
I presume Male Associated DNA sequence marker in Cannabis
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What you get is a f1 cross in female only seed's. Very few female plant are female in fact nearly all cannabis is hermi weather male or female expression just like hemp. It's the plants ability to produce hormones that will determine the sex that plant expresses that's how you can reverse the sex expressed by a chemicals and hormones. If you breed with a female expressing plant and a another female expressing plant that has been reversed with chemicals to stop it producing female hormones you get a 1-1 mateing so both plants pass 1 set of gene's to the seeds. If you breed a male expressing plant and a female expressing plant and cross them you get a 1-1 mateing exactly the same. The only difference you get is with reversing a female expressing plant both parents DNA will have genes that make both parents produce enough female hormone to express female to all the seeds they make. How the plants pass on gene's when breeding doesn't change.
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If male traits are muted and if certain male associations afford greater ability to combat myriad stress factors the female in theory might not have the strength or genetic defense mechanism it expects/deserves in an acclimate setting. The homogeny of herded feminized seed could contribute to morphology specific to its female traits or in turn greater failure when common grower error arises. I feel this is the source of seed companys' decry to not use feminized seed in breeding programs, but if there is now so much feminized product on the market it seems a contradiction to release them and claim ad hoc they are useless to breed with.

The worse outcome for cannabis in general is a dilute gene-pool which is obviously not an accident in the big picture, it is only a corporatized version of hording; old school paranoia manifest as business model.
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