[tomstumbletrimm]

Just to explain a little more how it works. The product tumbles over itself and like a rock tumbler it polishes the trim off as the product hits each other, but product also is manicured when trim hits the soft net material and gets caught and falls through the net into the bag.
So, it is a combination of the product hitting the net and each other which works so great. Where with other motorized machines with metal blades, they are naturally more abrasive.
Regarding how dry the product should be, the trim should be almost brittle while keeping the bud a tiny bit moist so it is less affected and you lose minimum crystals. This is not hard to get the product in that state since the leaf matter always dries faster. Please, I encourage anyone to call me for more details. I stand behind this product 1000% because as simple as it looks, it works great for a reasonable price. And I use furniture grade PVS pipe, with aluminum drums and high quality velcro and netting material which is washable and will last a long time. I hope you do buy one because you will become an ally for me since it does work great for a reasonable price. Thanks for your input.

Tom

Originally Posted by Snype

First of all in that video there's no way that's a pound of material and they advertise 1-2 pounds in the video. Looks more like 8 oz of airy / fluffy buds. I want to see an uncut video of you putting 2 pounds in that unit. And buds get all stuck in the net when it's spinning and there's no big buds in there either which makes it even more suspect.

But guess what, because this unit is so cheap, I'm going to buy one myself just to show you guys that this thing is garbage and I'll shoot an uncut video. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it and eat my words but I doubt I'll be wrong.

So now I ask a simple question to Tom. How dry in rH do you want the product to be before I put the product into your unit? Please give me a range to work with.

[EsterEssence]

So no pic of how much kief falls off from say 5 lbs. Doesn't seem to be much better than putting buds dried the same into a paper bag, and shaking the buds around to knock the last bits of leaf off. I have a real problem with people tumbling buds before they are offered as medicine...

[Snype]

Originally Posted by tomstumbletrimm

Just to explain a little more how it works. The product tumbles over itself and like a rock tumbler it polishes the trim off as the product hits each other, but product also is manicured when trim hits the soft net material and gets caught and falls through the net into the bag.
So, it is a combination of the product hitting the net and each other which works so great. Where with other motorized machines with metal blades, they are naturally more abrasive.
Regarding how dry the product should be, the trim should be almost brittle while keeping the bud a tiny bit moist so it is less affected and you lose minimum crystals. This is not hard to get the product in that state since the leaf matter always dries faster. Please, I encourage anyone to call me for more details. I stand behind this product 1000% because as simple as it looks, it works great for a reasonable price. And I use furniture grade PVS pipe, with aluminum drums and high quality velcro and netting material which is washable and will last a long time. I hope you do buy one because you will become an ally for me since it does work great for a reasonable price. Thanks for your input.

Tom

Sounds good Tom! I'll be buying one pretty soon! Can't wait to try it out!

[FlowerFarmer]

Originally Posted by EsterEssence

So no pic of how much kief falls off from say 5 lbs. Doesn't seem to be much better than putting buds dried the same into a paper bag, and shaking the buds around to knock the last bits of leaf off. I have a real problem with people tumbling buds before they are offered as medicine...

So long as both parties involved are in agreement to the quality and price of the cannabis I really don't see a problem with it.
It's not like anyone is concealing mold, pests, chemicals by doing a "machine trim" - that would be immoral. Using a machine is not. Just a tool to save time/money.

If someone wants to pay be top dollar for hand trimmed perfection I'll gladly oblige, but market research has already determined that people prefer cheaper price vs. quality time and time again. The majority of consumers are happy to sacrifice some trichs for a cheaper price. So what's the problem?


Aside from maybe tolerance reasons I don't believe buds to be any less "medicinal" just because they are slightly less frosty. The same compounds & cannabinoids still exist in both flowers, tumbled or hand trimmed.



Then again, I don't offer cannabis as medicine.. I just offer it as safe well grown cannabis. Just as you may have a problem with tumbled cannabis, others may have a problem with expensive cannabis. At what point is your medicine too expensive because of the amount of time & man power required come harvest time? Lots of market research says now. Most consumers want cheaper "medicine". Quality is already above and beyond what most consumers are familiar with.



Trimming to the standards that we do is really silly anyways. I'd much rather compensate for weight/price, leaving those frosty sugar leaves on there for the consumer to decide what they'd like to do with this "medicine". Meticulously trimming every little bud is ridiculous and does little for the end product besides make it look pretty and abuse it in the process (hand trimmers included).

In other countries cannabis is not trimmed like this. it's actually preferred "on the stick" as an assurance that it is real quality, as opposed to anybody's guess in a bag of loose bits, nugs, and pieces.

Trimming to the standards we do really is kinda silly but I have to be honest I love nice trimmed nugs...They taste way better then if lots of sugar leaf is left on.

I just watched a video called "Acapulco Gold-1973" and jesus christ they did not trim the weed AT ALL back then! They called it "cleaning" (I hear lots of old hippies use that term still) and it is simply removing it off the big stock and sometimes they pick out the smaller stems and things but these guys were literally just taking the whole plant and bricking it up lol. It was so ugly looking...They did not realize you were only supposed to smoke the flowers I dont think. No idea how they got high but people loved it back then. Shows how snobby we really are these days!

[Snook]

I have used an 18&24 Budweiser box. tape up all the seams, leave one end foldable. hang the buds/branches/plant for (I go 10 days) until buds are crispy out side. cut off buds from stems, dump some in the box, close up the open end and shake vigorously. shake ends up in th bottom of the box, fish out the 'tumbled' buds..

toms tumbler seems workable to me...

[OldGuyInOregon]

Karma is a bitch.

Originally Posted by jd4083

this dude's forum presence is really screwing the pooch in the marketing department

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Originally Posted by Snook

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How much you sellin' them 18bud tumblers for? Does it use any metal blades???

[Dollar]

I know Tom or I should say I did know Tom until we had a disagreement and parted ways. Although I`m not too fond of him as a person and how he treats others, I do have to say the tumble trimmer works well. I the saw the prototype and watched it in action. For the time involved compared to an electric metal trimmer, probably not as efficient but close and the end product looks way better. Obviously not as good as if you hand trimmed it but much better than the metal trimmers.

[green michine]

I would consider buying it if i harvested more than 12 plants, but i dont grow more than 6 plants atm so hand trimming is more suited for me. I find hand trimming to be therapeutic for me but if i had a lot more plants at harvest i would get one.

[tomstumbletrimm]

Thanks "Dollar" for the positive remarks about the tomstumbletrimmer. You were inspirational in my efforts to market my invention. Sorry for the misunderstanding.