Yeah lol Freezeland WAS a favorite outdoor strain for consumers yeaars back. Now, you'd be lucky to get 1K a pound for it simply because you can tell its outdoor right away.

I said I get 2K but thats off bud that could pass as indoor. Kush strains and I am sorry when I reread my post I kinda made it sound like I am dumping off mulitple pounds for 2 grand each but sadly that is not the case lol. I break it down and sell it all off myself. I have heard from others on here in the "Canadian Marijuana market" thread that right now last years outdoor is going for 2400 in bulk which sounded high to me but I can see it for sure considering how pricey things are and there is obviously no outdoor around right now. During the flood of course prices go down but really it all comes down to who your specific local market. Some people pay way more then others within the same province. Ontario is huge, you should hear the prices I hear good weed going for far up north like Thunder Bay

I want the freezeland for my own personal as I love the piney smoke that I have found memories of smoking all winter. Plus I bet it makes killer hash and concentrates and brad mentioned and what a perfect plant to grow to turn into oil

Thats an awesome picture brad is that all Freeze? Hey brad do you have any Freezeland seeds where they are mostly freeze dominate?

Originally Posted by Savage Seeds

Haha ya man, 15 years ago shit was borderline wild west in the weed world up here you could make money right off the fall chop and a good bunch of it, if you sat on it till May or June of next year $2500-$3000 wasn't hard to get. .

When the heck was OD going for 3k a pound?! I've never heard of it fetching that even broken down thats almost $190 an ounce...When was this? In the 10 seasons I have been growing outdoor has always been cheap, I do not agree that things have changed so much. Only thing that has changed is before while shitty OD fetched a low price but sold quick now if you have shitty swaggy looking outdoor you can set the price so low and it still wont move but if your grow a good strain that can doesn't have that "outdoor look" if you know what I mean, it moves no problem and you should get a price you are OK with.

My advice if some of your outdoor comes out looking to shwaggy to fetch a price your happy with? Turn it all into dry sift and then blast the sifted matieral into oil or make edibles or both whatever makes most sense for you. I have a friend that does not even trim his outdoor anymore just hangs it up to dry and processes it all into hash cause he grows the classic timewarp crosses that he would be lucky to get 1K a p for. He turns it all into hash and ships it North. At first he thought of quitting growing but he adapted. It can be hard but if you are determined their is still a huge market and plenty of money to be made IMO

[Savage Seeds]

I turn all my shake into oil ther'll always be a market for it and always be good money in it. I agree even with weed bein sold by big companies the black market will be the way too go no tax, no paperwork, better dope for the most part and the government doesn't got your name in a database keepin a eye on you for buyin it.

The strains I grow always sell the best of em I always pass off as hydro is Rene, I mean the OG Rene clone from Jean Guy I got from the bikers not the feminized version from house of the great gardener, although there is a few neat phenos in those seeds one really fuckin weird one, but nothin identical to the clone only Rene I'll never get rid of her EVER!

She has her own funk and stink that will cut through anything in the room no matter how packed up it is, it's shiny as hell, looks like hydro and people can't get enough of it.

I have not heard Rene mentioned in awhile. Heard it was really popular in BC not sure if it still is. I never knew the genes but Jean guy makes sense as I know Rene is a real frosty sativa dominate just like the jean guy. When does the Rene finish by and hows she yield outdoors? I heard shes not the best yeilder. I'd love to have that cut...I heard shes hard to find.

[Savage Seeds]

Originally Posted by wegobigupnorth

I have not heard Rene mentioned in awhile. Heard it was really popular in BC not sure if it still is. I never knew the genes but Jean guy makes sense as I know Rene is a real frosty sativa dominate just like the jean guy. When does the Rene finish by and hows she yield outdoors? I heard shes not the best yeilder. I'd love to have that cut...I heard shes hard to find.

Some of the dopest dope on the East coast even the kushwhores buy it first, its always the first to sell out that's why its hard to find cause the few who got her don't wanna sha share.

As far as finishin outdoors its done by the end of September no problem you can take it to October if the weather lets you and you like to slobber on the couch, it shine as a balanced buzz weed.

Its not a commercial yeilder 1/2-3/4 pound if you look after them an treat em real nice. Fuck organic ferts of any kind, go chemical, you know how long it takes organics to break down into somethin the plan can actually use? Usually a couple years. Chemical is water soluable and available for uptake as soon as it gets to the roots BOOM. Bigger, better, plants.

Use miracle grow guys get off the kool aid its no different or better than big name firts that cost 10x as much, I know this for a fact I've tried em.

I do actually only use chemicals on my gorilla grows. I used miracle grow my first year growing when I was 13 and actually got good results but their are plenty of better chemical fertilizers for cannabis that are just as cheap, maybe even cheaper.

General Hydroponics Maxibloom is fucking great. Jacks is another good one.... If you have been using miracle grow because not much else is available I'd reccomend you get pure blend pro. It is my favorite one that is available at any store miracle grow is.

BUT, I now use one time release fertilizer and one only. Advanced Nutrients heavy harvest. I know all about the hate on AN and agree with most things people say about them. I would never use any of their crazy overpriced bottle ferts but this heavy harvest is fucking great. Made specifaclly for gorilla growers.

It is a 3 part fertilzer but I only buy the first and last parts as our season is short it only needs to be applied once when I first plant in the holes and again in the first week of flowering. It comes in big buckets and you really do not need to apply very much so these buckets last me AWHILE. I have experiemented with several time release fertz as I NEVER haul water into my site. The less times you visit the better your chances of harvesting and if your hauling water in their every week your gonna not only have a better chance of someone spotting you, your going to leave a crazy amount of trails or just one really obvious trail leading right into the grow and making trails/paths is a good way to get your plants ripped.

I have used both organic and chemical time release and love the heavy harvest the most. Plants are always so healthy never look hungry.

[Savage Seeds]

Originally Posted by wegobigupnorth

I do actually only use chemicals on my gorilla grows. I used miracle grow my first year growing when I was 13 and actually got good results but their are plenty of better chemical fertilizers for cannabis that are just as cheap, maybe even cheaper.

General Hydroponics Maxibloom is fucking great. Jacks is another good one.... If you have been using miracle grow because not much else is available I'd reccomend you get pure blend pro. It is my favorite one that is available at any store miracle grow is.

BUT, I now use one time release fertilizer and one only. Advanced Nutrients heavy harvest. I know all about the hate on AN and agree with most things people say about them. I would never use any of their crazy overpriced bottle ferts but this heavy harvest is fucking great. Made specifaclly for gorilla growers.

It is a 3 part fertilzer but I only buy the first and last parts as our season is short it only needs to be applied once when I first plant in the holes and again in the first week of flowering. It comes in big buckets and you really do not need to apply very much so these buckets last me AWHILE. I have experiemented with several time release fertz as I NEVER haul water into my site. The less times you visit the better your chances of harvesting and if your hauling water in their every week your gonna not only have a better chance of someone spotting you, your going to leave a crazy amount of trails or just one really obvious trail leading right into the grow and making trails/paths is a good way to get your plants ripped.

I have used both organic and chemical time release and love the heavy harvest the most. Plants are always so healthy never look hungry.

Man I wasn't baggin on you about organics, I was just clearin shit up before the organibabies got here and started preachin and spammin your thread with it... Always happens for some reason.

I'd fuckin love to get me some of that heavy harvest but by the fuck it's hard on the old pocket book haha. Might try that maxibloom never have tried it, I water once a week but where I live I don't gotta worry bout people snatchin my shit. people get scared comin this far back in the sticks, and if ya ain't got 4 wheel drive or a sled you ain't comin to my house in the winter. Lots of land keeps things safe too.

I hear ya brother but I actually have never used organics except the time release pellet shit and that was the only time release fert I usedd where no matter how much you used the plants were always looking starved for food. I have only used chemicals since and have no interest in using organics. If I could grow in my backyard and had it all fenced it so I didn't have to worry about animals you bet I would have a compost pile going and be making some compost tea with a nice ass soil mix with all that lovely shit like blood and bone meal that plants love but you can NEVER use that shit on a gorilla grow as animals will be on that shit in no time.

Wanted to ask you Savage if you ever heard of a strain called "Krinkle" it is a clone only hash plant very popular amongst the bikers. I bought a ton of cuts of it years back to run outside and fucking LOVED it. Finished by sept 15 and super white and frosty buds and a pretty good yielding plant that stayed short and bushy, loved to be trained and topped super easy to grow...

I would love to have the krinkle back every time I ask about it people say its impossible to get as the bikers don't give it out but obviously they do lol. I know the person I bought it from, his family was biker affilated for sure but he was not sneaking around their back to sell them to me or anything...It is for sure still around and circulating IMO...It was only about 4 years ago when I had her last.

[Savage Seeds]

Originally Posted by wegobigupnorth

I hear ya brother but I actually have never used organics except the time release pellet shit and that was the only time release fert I usedd where no matter how much you used the plants were always looking starved for food. I have only used chemicals since and have no interest in using organics. If I could grow in my backyard and had it all fenced it so I didn't have to worry about animals you bet I would have a compost pile going and be making some compost tea with a nice ass soil mix with all that lovely shit like blood and bone meal that plants love but you can NEVER use that shit on a gorilla grow as animals will be on that shit in no time.

Wanted to ask you Savage if you ever heard of a strain called "Krinkle" it is a clone only hash plant very popular amongst the bikers. I bought a ton of cuts of it years back to run outside and fucking LOVED it. Finished by sept 15 and super white and frosty buds and a pretty good yielding plant that stayed short and bushy, loved to be trained and topped super easy to grow...

I would love to have the krinkle back every time I ask about it people say its impossible to get as the bikers don't give it out but obviously they do lol. I know the person I bought it from, his family was biker affilated for sure but he was not sneaking around their back to sell them to me or anything...It is for sure still around and circulating IMO...It was only about 4 years ago when I had her last.

For sure brother backyard growin would be the tits with real composted shit the plants would actually be able to take up readily. Rule of thumb for us outdoor lads is fill new holes 2-3 weeks prior to plantin to give the critters time to do what they wanna do with it... Them coons and skunks are fuckers when they find a new hole with spiffy new dirt in it, there's somethin magical to dig down and find don'tcha know? Haha.

I can get krinkle buds right now for a good deal, I don't have any clones of it though. But, without givin away exact location if your ever in Quebec and you ask around the Montreal area a bit you might stumble across one.

[gorilla ganja]

hello from Alberta, wondering which sativa dominant strains you guys use that finishes by mid sept. best of luck to everyone in their grows this yr.