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dankster303 · 03-16-2015, 04:58 AM

I crossed 2 very purple devil cream with each other and also crossed the forced male devil cream to an ice cool auto. None of the off spring for either the devil cream x devil cream or the devil cream x ice cool are showing the purple calyx like the original ? just wondering if this purple gene is a recessive gene ? All offspring are growing really nice and similar.

dankster303 · 03-16-2015, 04:01 PM

jaypp ?

jaypp · 03-16-2015, 08:25 PM

Hi dankster303, nice to see you are doing some experiments

I need to talk with the breeders because I don't know too much about this and I cannot give you a good answer.
Thanks,
Sweet smokes!
jaypp

jaypp · 03-17-2015, 03:05 PM

Hello, I have a safer answer

The purple color character seems to be Polygenic: that is, several genes are added, if all of them are purple promoters, you obtain a very dark purple. You can obtain many nuances depending on the amount of purple genes you manage to gather. The purple genes are co-dominant with the green color.

So is very strange not to get even a slight purple color from the crossing of two purple plants. Maybe some polen of a “green” plant sneaked into your grow due to your other plants or a neighbor’s crop.

Have you had any male or hermaphrodite plant nearby?
Greetings!
Jaypp

dankster303 · 03-18-2015, 04:24 PM

nope. very tightly regulated. never had trouble with a breeding experiment. all ofspring are very similar in structure and all are female. just not purple.

jaypp · 03-18-2015, 06:59 PM

Hi!
one question mate, how many seeds did you germinate?
Cheers!
jaypp

aridbud · 03-18-2015, 07:54 PM

I think it depends on phenos, or has been our experience. Have grown several strains of Sweet Seeds (like them!!)...some colored others not. Those, where we made seeds, certain phenos (maybe 20%) exhibited color, but not like the F1 bought (like Dark Devil).

So either recessive or pheno driven. Could be way off...just quoting our experiences with "colored" strains (blue, purple, pink strains).

dankster303 · 03-19-2015, 01:32 AM

Im guessing that it is more of a recessive gene. I germinated maybe 30. and im sad to say im actually scrapping the entire project. I am making a new order tonight. ice cool auto. sweet special auto. and bloody skunk auto. going to cross everything with bloody skunk and see what happens.

aridbud · 03-19-2015, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dankster303

Im guessing that it is more of a recessive gene. I germinated maybe 30. and im sad to say im actually scrapping the entire project. I am making a new order tonight. ice cool auto. sweet special auto. and bloody skunk auto. going to cross everything with bloody skunk and see what happens.

Sounds 'bloody' good!

dankster303 · 03-28-2015, 04:15 AM

the purple gene is not recessive. it has come on really strong in the last few days. it just did not start off as strong. now about 3 out of 4 are showing purple. That would also probably be the reason you will see 20-30 purple autoflower strains popup from other companies.

03-16-2015, 04:58 AM	#1
dankster303 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 16	Purple auto gene recessive ? I crossed 2 very purple devil cream with each other and also crossed the forced male devil cream to an ice cool auto. None of the off spring for either the devil cream x devil cream or the devil cream x ice cool are showing the purple calyx like the original ? just wondering if this purple gene is a recessive gene ? All offspring are growing really nice and similar.
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03-16-2015, 04:01 PM	#2
dankster303 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 16	jaypp ?
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03-16-2015, 08:25 PM	#3
jaypp Vendor Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 872	Hi dankster303, nice to see you are doing some experiments I need to talk with the breeders because I don't know too much about this and I cannot give you a good answer. Thanks, Sweet smokes! jaypp
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03-17-2015, 03:05 PM	#4
jaypp Vendor Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 872	Hello, I have a safer answer The purple color character seems to be Polygenic: that is, several genes are added, if all of them are purple promoters, you obtain a very dark purple. You can obtain many nuances depending on the amount of purple genes you manage to gather. The purple genes are co-dominant with the green color. So is very strange not to get even a slight purple color from the crossing of two purple plants. Maybe some polen of a “green” plant sneaked into your grow due to your other plants or a neighbor’s crop. Have you had any male or hermaphrodite plant nearby? Greetings! Jaypp
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03-18-2015, 04:24 PM	#5
dankster303 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 16	nope. very tightly regulated. never had trouble with a breeding experiment. all ofspring are very similar in structure and all are female. just not purple.
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03-18-2015, 06:59 PM	#6
jaypp Vendor Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 872	Hi! one question mate, how many seeds did you germinate? Cheers! jaypp
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03-18-2015, 07:54 PM	#7
aridbud automeister Join Date: May 2013 Location: the best place on earth Posts: 5,589	I think it depends on phenos, or has been our experience. Have grown several strains of Sweet Seeds (like them!!)...some colored others not. Those, where we made seeds, certain phenos (maybe 20%) exhibited color, but not like the F1 bought (like Dark Devil). So either recessive or pheno driven. Could be way off...just quoting our experiences with "colored" strains (blue, purple, pink strains). __________________ Seeds have the power to preserve species, to enhance cultural as well as genetic diversity, to counter economic monopoly and to check the advance of conformity on all its many fronts. Michael Pollan Happiness held is the seed; Happiness shared is the flower. John Harrigan Instant gratification takes too long. Carrie Fisher - RIP. *afterthought autos* We are passionate breeders of unique quality cannabis autoflower hybrid seeds at down to earth prices; now 11 years running! https://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=65770
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03-19-2015, 01:32 AM	#8
dankster303 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 16	Im guessing that it is more of a recessive gene. I germinated maybe 30. and im sad to say im actually scrapping the entire project. I am making a new order tonight. ice cool auto. sweet special auto. and bloody skunk auto. going to cross everything with bloody skunk and see what happens.
	Quote 2 members found this post helpful.

03-28-2015, 04:15 AM	#10
dankster303 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 16	the purple gene is not recessive. it has come on really strong in the last few days. it just did not start off as strong. now about 3 out of 4 are showing purple. That would also probably be the reason you will see 20-30 purple autoflower strains popup from other companies.
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