[Emeraldo]

Originally Posted by Satyros

Now that it has set flowers, that second plant probably is Sexbud...it got darker and more fingery leaves, so that aspect does look like the first one. However, being a younger plant, which received less heat and light, the fact that it is much taller than the first one is rather strange, as well as it looking very different during veg. Don't know if it's more likely my mistake, or if it's just the variety that can happen in this line...I suppose in a few weeks the scent should confirm it.

Hi there Satyros, glad to see you back here.

So your mystery plant is flowering. Sexbud will have a fruity aroma, like pineapple or grapefruit, as you know. I'm having trouble imagining what you mean by darker and more fingery leaves -- longer more sativa-like leaves? Here are my two sexbud plants during flowering. The finished buds were hard button-like nuggets.

[Female Seeds]

Wow, impressive Emeraldo. Good pictures too!
Man, it "looks" super tasty! Those pictures represent quintessentially our beloved Sexbud

Originally Posted by Emeraldo

Hi there Satyros, glad to see you back here.

So your mystery plant is flowering. Sexbud will have a fruity aroma, like pineapple or grapefruit, as you know. I'm having trouble imagining what you mean by darker and more fingery leaves -- longer more sativa-like leaves? Here are my two sexbud plants during flowering. The finished buds were hard button-like nuggets.

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[Satyros]

Originally Posted by Emeraldo

Hi there Satyros, glad to see you back here.

So your mystery plant is flowering. Sexbud will have a fruity aroma, like pineapple or grapefruit, as you know. I'm having trouble imagining what you mean by darker and more fingery leaves -- longer more sativa-like leaves?

Hi...yes, I guess I will have to judge it by the scent.

My 1st one looks basically the same as yours. The 2nd was a lighter color, had wider leaves, and stretched more, which is what got me thinking I mixed up a seed. However, the way it looks to me, is that once it starts flowering, a lot of cannabis changes form. At least, with hybrids, an indica may start with really wide leaves, but then they're medium in flower. Sativas don't really start with fingery leaves, but develop them later on. My first Sexbud was uniformly dark with medium width leaves during growth, and did not stretch very much, but once it flowered, the new leaves were pretty narrow.

So on this second plant, once it got some little round flowers, the newer leaves came out darker and fingery, very much like Sexbud--the plant as a whole seemed completely different, but the flowers look right.

It probably won't become very photogenic. Last night I had a dream that the goats were out of their pen eating cannabis, and when I woke up, it was true. Fortunately, they mostly just nibbled a few leaves, but they were able to get to this particular plant, and consumed two of the budding tops, so only half of it is left.

Not sure I'll wind up doing a picture of that poor thing. The first one looks quite good; I'll submit its photo, although that might not be until harvest.

[Emeraldo]

Originally Posted by Satyros

Hi...yes, I guess I will have to judge it by the scent.

My 1st one looks basically the same as yours. The 2nd was a lighter color, had wider leaves, and stretched more, which is what got me thinking I mixed up a seed. However, the way it looks to me, is that once it starts flowering, a lot of cannabis changes form. At least, with hybrids, an indica may start with really wide leaves, but then they're medium in flower. Sativas don't really start with fingery leaves, but develop them later on. My first Sexbud was uniformly dark with medium width leaves during growth, and did not stretch very much, but once it flowered, the new leaves were pretty narrow.

So on this second plant, once it got some little round flowers, the newer leaves came out darker and fingery, very much like Sexbud--the plant as a whole seemed completely different, but the flowers look right.

It probably won't become very photogenic. Last night I had a dream that the goats were out of their pen eating cannabis, and when I woke up, it was true. Fortunately, they mostly just nibbled a few leaves, but they were able to get to this particular plant, and consumed two of the budding tops, so only half of it is left.

Not sure I'll wind up doing a picture of that poor thing. The first one looks quite good; I'll submit its photo, although that might not be until harvest.

Satyros, so sorry the goats ate your sexbud.

Supper for the goats? Supper-cropping?

I know, it's not funny.

Anyway, I hope the goats didn't get your first plant, because we are pretty sure she is sexbud.

How is she doing? The flowers on both of mine were smallish and round, not long colas, and all the trichs were concentrated around the button-shaped nugget bud. Finished bud is hard but filled with resin.

Yes, the budleaf pushed out smaller and darker during flowering. Earlier on, during veg, sexbud was a shade lighter than my other strains.

Am curious how your first plant turns out. Please post results.

[Satyros]

Well, I keep this stuff in a fortress that's designed to keep out cats and chickens, and it does a good job at that. Of course, in this setup, I have to water plants at arm's length and it's difficult to see details up close, without doing a complicated maneuver.

In this process, I'm trying to "get to know" the strains, and a major criteria is to figure out how to get some good stuff, while keeping the plants under a certain height. Sexbud seems to be a strong contender so far, and this is what I glean from it now, versus what to plan for next season:

I can't say the flower clusters are smallish, mine are going a bit more of a chunky indica direction, maybe just a little bit less than a dedicated indica. Even so, I would say the other sativas of the same age, in terms of yield, are probably going to be double this one. The difference will be that the Sexbud will finish first; it's starting to ripen, with a few brownish pistils and some curling, while the others are still perky and young.

Its height is so well maintained, it could be a little taller, so I believe it could benefit from at least another 2 weeks of veg, so, for here, start at the beginning of July--or possibly earlier than that. And with some more time, it looks like it would be great with some LST. If it was grown that way, a little taller with more branching, I'd guess the yield could rival the other sativas--which, I don't think I could start those any earlier, because they would get too tall. So for next year, it seems that whatever comes from those sativas is basically the "limit" for what to expect from one, but Sexbud could probably be easily tweaked for an increase. The variable is that, if planted earlier, it may simply flower earlier as well, which would relegate it to the early season for planting. I guess the plan would be to get multiples, and try a couple early and then a couple in summer.

I simply don't have the luxury to run most photoperiod strains from the start of the season, so, from that point of view, Sexbud will probably become my "go-to" early thing; otherwise I'd have to dabble in autos.

In terms of the fastest actual ripening of the flowers, it looks like (1) Edelweiss, (2) Kiss Dragon, (3) Sexbud, (4) everything else. So, it's not literally fastest in terms of things that flowered at the same time, but, there again, it could probably be induced to go first, and therefor beat any of those in the absolute time frame. I don't anticipate any of these other strains would flower much earlier if planted in March.

Aside from the quality of the smoke, Sexbud seems to really hit the spot with its growth pattern, on the question of "how can I get a smaller faster sativa". Plus, with a long enough growing season, you can probably run two batches, or even make starts monthly for a sort of perpetual harvest in outdoor grows.

[Emeraldo]

Originally Posted by Satyros

...Its height is so well maintained, it could be a little taller, so I believe it could benefit from at least another 2 weeks of veg, so, for here, start at the beginning of July--or possibly earlier than that. And with some more time, it looks like it would be great with some LST. If it was grown that way, a little taller with more branching, I'd guess the yield could rival the other sativas--which, I don't think I could start those any earlier, because they would get too tall. So for next year, it seems that whatever comes from those sativas is basically the "limit" for what to expect from one, but Sexbud could probably be easily tweaked for an increase. The variable is that, if planted earlier, it may simply flower earlier as well, which would relegate it to the early season for planting. I guess the plan would be to get multiples, and try a couple early and then a couple in summer.

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Aside from the quality of the smoke, Sexbud seems to really hit the spot with its growth pattern, on the question of "how can I get a smaller faster sativa". Plus, with a long enough growing season, you can probably run two batches, or even make starts monthly for a sort of perpetual harvest in outdoor grows.

The height of my Sexbud plants was low -- both were topped twice and then LST'd. The branches were pliable and wirey, and I was able to form these plants however I wanted. I tried to make one look like a round bush -- and it did. But you could let them grow taller.

I don't know if you read up on Purple Maroc, another FS strain that I grew this year. Very early flowering sativa. There is a thread here on ic about it. Mine started flowering in early July and were finished by the end of August (which is what FS said would happen).

[Satyros]

Ah yeah, my guess was that you LST'd the plant. Otherwise, on a relatively short-term grow, you'd get branches of a minor kind...but those looked pretty well extended. Which probably doubles the yield, or at least increases it noticeably.

I'm probably relegated to doing the opposite: lower branch sacrifice. The lowers on most strains seem to make negligible specks, and Sexbud doesn't seem any different about that. It just feels like about time to do that removal, conserving energy for the main parts of the plant, one more feeding, and probably then just water until it looks done.

The Maroc might be worth thinking about for next year; did you find any differences to the buzz between Sexbud & Maroc?

The more I look at it, the more impressive "early flowering" seems to be...it has more wiggle room than pure autos, without the enforced wait of a standard photoperiod. That just seems to have a lot of adaptability for outdoor grows, particularly in areas with a longer growing season. Up north, you may just basically have the option of...start in April, or else just get smaller plants. Here, you could probably start some in March, April, June, and July and...it might not be true perpetual harvest, but it would resemble that. Which is pretty nice for a small personal garden.

[Emeraldo]

Originally Posted by Satyros

...The Maroc might be worth thinking about for next year; did you find any differences to the buzz between Sexbud & Maroc?

Difference in buzz: Purple Maroc has a nice long lasting clear head high, does not impair concentration or activity. Sexbud is similar but actually stimulates activity and creativity, as with playing music.

Originally Posted by Satyros

The more I look at it, the more impressive "early flowering" seems to be...it has more wiggle room than pure autos, without the enforced wait of a standard photoperiod. That just seems to have a lot of adaptability for outdoor grows, particularly in areas with a longer growing season. Up north, you may just basically have the option of...start in April, or else just get smaller plants. Here, you could probably start some in March, April, June, and July and...it might not be true perpetual harvest, but it would resemble that. Which is pretty nice for a small personal garden.

I suppose I could plant early flowering strains like Sexbud and Purple Maroc in say mid-June, let them veg as long as they want to veg, and watch when they flower and finish, maybe by the end of September or so. They might kick into flowering at a younger age than mine this year (planted in late April), they would be just barely out of the bean when June 21 comes around, so they would prolly flower as soon as they possibly could.

Two crops would have to be staggered, plant in April and June. I may plant in June next year, so I will see how that goes.

Yes less waiting than with regular photoperiod. I grew Nirvana Chrystal for years, always needed 8.5 weeks of 12/12, yes it was starting in June and waiting usually into early October. Early flowering definitely saves time.

[Satyros]

Originally Posted by Emeraldo

Difference in buzz: Purple Maroc has a nice long lasting clear head high, does not impair concentration or activity. Sexbud is similar but actually stimulates activity and creativity, as with playing music.

Haha well, you've sold me on Sexbud. Or. At least that makes it sound pretty unique. Most cannabis can be said to have that effect just by virtue of relaxing you and maybe dumping some of the garbage out of your brain...which is helpful...but not quite the same as inspiration from the Muses.

And I think it's quite useful to build a log of how it will grow in different climates and seasons, especially since it's kind of new and has a slightly different variable (early flowering) than most people are used to. I suppose that could basically be the same as c99, Maroc, and the like; of course, I don't really know.

Even though one of my data sets is banged up, which probably threw its development for a loop, the tops of the first Sexbud are coming in about like small pinecones as it ripens. If I count flowering as visible pistils, it would be in week six now...looks to be right on track to finish in two or three more.

[Emeraldo]

Originally Posted by Satyros

Haha well, you've sold me on Sexbud. Or. At least that makes it sound pretty unique. Most cannabis can be said to have that effect just by virtue of relaxing you and maybe dumping some of the garbage out of your brain...which is helpful...but not quite the same as inspiration from the Muses.

And I think it's quite useful to build a log of how it will grow in different climates and seasons, especially since it's kind of new and has a slightly different variable (early flowering) than most people are used to. I suppose that could basically be the same as c99, Maroc, and the like; of course, I don't really know.

Even though one of my data sets is banged up, which probably threw its development for a loop, the tops of the first Sexbud are coming in about like small pinecones as it ripens. If I count flowering as visible pistils, it would be in week six now...looks to be right on track to finish in two or three more.

Looking forward to your own impressions of Sexbud after you've harvested, which ought to be pretty soon now. Any whiff of grapefruit or pineapple from her buds yet? Mine started having those scents maybe two weeks before they were fully ripe, just a faint odor at first, but by the time the trichs were showing 50% milky the bouquet was quite nice. I mean, the odor was never overwhelming, that being one of the features of Sexbud that makes it a great stealth strain, imo.