[Satyros]

Originally Posted by Emeraldo

So in my grow, I did the opposite of you, Sat. I planted end of April, which was "early". The plants matured by the end of May, and then they continued to veg along until -- hey! -- they suddenly noticed that the days were getting shorter in mid-July. That triggered flowering, and they finished by end of August.

Planting mid-May might have produced the same result, only with plants that would not have had all that veg time I gave them. Which actually was a good thing, in the end, they had time to fully develop.

Yes, for your area outdoors, that would be the prediction I would make. You could start in April, May, or June, and they would flower at about the same time, just with correspondingly lesser amounts of veg growth. Waiting until July might press forward the flowering date and give you a later version of a June planting.

In the way Mr. Bean means "mature", if placed immediately indoors, which is about the same as planting at the equator, then it will start flowering immediately. But when following the natural increments of darkness outdoors, there's an additional time frame where it's learning that it should start flowering, so it can not really mature for 30-40 days.

Development-wise, I saw trichomes first on a different strain (50/50 hybrid). The Sexbud is starting to add some mass to its flowers though, so that looks fairly promising. Therefor, from the point of view of having five strains literally start flowering at the same time, it's not as fast at physical development as some other things, but if I had planted early, I believe it may have started sooner, maybe like up to a month earlier.

As for how long it can go, I only really watch the ripening degree. I would expect to snag the sativas right around the beginning of any amber/darkness. In this case, the three that I have are all supposed to be short flowering; none are equatorials. So I might be harvesting sativas before indicas, however backwards that may sound. For a while, indicas should shrug off any temperature drop that tells sativas "hurry up and finish". I don't really expect temperatures to damage anything, even though my last plant (Afghan) has yet to show pistils, if female.

[Satyros]

Oh joy! Here, Sexbud has joined in with her trichome push.

I'm definitely not going to get the extra bushiness as Emeraldo had, and, even though it's by far the smallest of my sativas, it looks like enough production to have been well worth growing. As an eyeball estimate, maybe an ounce off this thing?

[Female Seeds]

Yes, that exactly the thing, this variety is going to flower anyway when she realise that days are shortening, quite photo sensible indeed. So better starting a bit earlier, like this during the veg phase it develops a strong, healthy and solid plant ready to fatten up during flowering stage. If you give Sexbud a 4-6 weeks of veg growth you can expect a nice amount of lovely flowers during flowering stage.


Anyway yes, you understood correctly. you can start them indoor but when bringing them outside you have to be extremely careful to check the amount of hours of light outside and be sure that is the same of the indoor hours because as said before some phenos (not all of course) can really feel any different and slight change of light which can bring them to flower earlier than what someone wanted.

Originally Posted by Satyros

Yes, for your area outdoors, that would be the prediction I would make. You could start in April, May, or June, and they would flower at about the same time, just with correspondingly lesser amounts of veg growth. Waiting until July might press forward the flowering date and give you a later version of a June planting.

In the way Mr. Bean means "mature", if placed immediately indoors, which is about the same as planting at the equator, then it will start flowering immediately. But when following the natural increments of darkness outdoors, there's an additional time frame where it's learning that it should start flowering, so it can not really mature for 30-40 days.

Development-wise, I saw trichomes first on a different strain (50/50 hybrid). The Sexbud is starting to add some mass to its flowers though, so that looks fairly promising. Therefor, from the point of view of having five strains literally start flowering at the same time, it's not as fast at physical development as some other things, but if I had planted early, I believe it may have started sooner, maybe like up to a month earlier.

As for how long it can go, I only really watch the ripening degree. I would expect to snag the sativas right around the beginning of any amber/darkness. In this case, the three that I have are all supposed to be short flowering; none are equatorials. So I might be harvesting sativas before indicas, however backwards that may sound. For a while, indicas should shrug off any temperature drop that tells sativas "hurry up and finish". I don't really expect temperatures to damage anything, even though my last plant (Afghan) has yet to show pistils, if female.

Any pictures of your beauties? I am quite curious actually

Originally Posted by Satyros

Oh joy! Here, Sexbud has joined in with her trichome push.

I'm definitely not going to get the extra bushiness as Emeraldo had, and, even though it's by far the smallest of my sativas, it looks like enough production to have been well worth growing. As an eyeball estimate, maybe an ounce off this thing?

[Satyros]

Originally Posted by Female Seeds

If you give Sexbud a 4-6 weeks of veg growth you can expect a nice amount of lovely flowers during flowering stage.

Any pictures of your beauties? I am quite curious actually

Agreed. Mine was about 6 weeks when pistils appeared, and, with topping, made a nice candelabra shape. Compared to other sativas, Sexbud flowers are getting fatter and pumping out trichomes faster. It's just a little bit behind some hybrids with more indica.

I'll stick a photo in here at some point (don't have my own camera).

[c00k1eFunk]

"this cannabis strain flowers early, without waiting for the shorter days... it matures in 4 weeks from seed, but we promise that is the only thing that will be done faster than expected!"

maturing plant=its ready to start flowering.... not ready to be chopped sry...


next time veg for 4-5weeks and flower for 7 weeks and see/feel the difference...
day 1 flowering is day 1 of multiplying of pistils, its not the first pistil to appear. and its not the first day of stretch with no pistils.

some plants start to throw pistils 3-4weeks before start of flowering..


28 days... is just too short.
good luck next time, no offense but a well meant advise.
sry my first post was silly...

[Emeraldo]

Sexbud report

Germination: April 28, 100% germination rate.

Veg: May 14 to end of June

Flowering: Early or mid-July to end of August. First saw pistils on SB1 on July 26 (were at least 2 days developed), harvested Aug 27. SB2 harvested Sept 1.

Growth: Slow to kick into vigorous vegetative growth. Of the three strains I grew, SB was second to fill in and to begin flowering, but SB needs veg time to produce a strong healthy plant before flowering. Adjusted quickly to topping, LST, tying. Branching easy to work with on supercropping.

Buds: Round button-like nuggets. Frosty in flowering, dried buds are hard and full of resin. They gum up the grinder and give off fruity aroma. These buds are not fluffly but dense. Moisture tends to reside inside them, and SB took a bit longer than PM in drying.

Yield: About 95 grams per plant.

Odor: Not much until a week/10 days before harvest. SB1 had sweet and light pineapple that got a thicker and heavier rotten pineapple aroma. SB2 a citrus aroma like grapefruit that got heavier and stronger. Not very intense, for this reason is a good stealth strain.

Effect: This weed is amazing. Dried buds have wonderful aroma. Effect is uplifting and energizing, long-lasting, mostly clear. An intoxicated feeling in my head. Puts me in the mood to get active. Great party weed, will no doubt improve my sex life!

[Emeraldo]

Originally Posted by c00k1eFunk

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next time veg for 4-5weeks and flower for 7 weeks and see/feel the difference...
day 1 flowering is day 1 of multiplying of pistils, its not the first pistil to appear. and its not the first day of stretch with no pistils.

some plants start to throw pistils 3-4weeks before start of flowering..

28 days... is just too short.
good luck next time, no offense but a well meant advise.
sry my first post was silly...
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The puzzling thing was I could not see a push of pistil growth until late July, but they were fully ripe by the end of August.

So... was it 7 weeks flowering? or was it 4.5 weeks flowering? Answer: "it depends" on when you start counting. For an outdoor grow you don't have control over the light switch. The plant is ripe when the trichs are going milky rapidly and the aroma is full and heavy. In the end, whether it was 7 or 4 weeks did not really matter to me, I was just a little surprised that they finished so fast and wanted to get my head around it. Thanks to Mr. Bean and Satyros, I think we got to the bottom of it.

FS has bred some amazing fast-flowering strains. Good luck!

[c00k1eFunk]

sry bro i really dont want to offend or start a fight. but for me, first week of 12/12 ID is not first week of flowering, its the first week of preflowering.
I come from the OD growing, ID is just fun and exotic genetic(private stash).
Flowering= flowers start to develop.
Stretch, preflowering, flowering.. some of it can go hand in hand but only the formation of true pistils can be called fower onset, since these pistils contein the thc trichomes wich need time to develop and mature and gain high ammount of thc. most of the time these first pistils will be the pistils to turn amber.

You said it , only half of the trichs were MILKY, rest was clear, not all milky and 5-15% amber like it should be. clear trichs= they are not filled with much thc yet. amber= thc starts to break down into CBN or how its shortcut in english...
clear= short duration, trippy nervous high. amber=sedative
I am growing every year different strains outside, i can only determine start of flowering by actually seeing multiplication of flowers(pistils).
Chop time is always when i have 90%milky, even if i see mold, i will chop the moldy bud and let the rest rippen, cuz its not worth the act otherway.

If you do silly things in life most people dont have the courage to tell you you're wrong, they will say YEAH Man, JUMP FROM THE Bridge, you will be a hero you are right... but they don't care if you break your legs. and are not honest. will call you fool behind ya back.
I just want to share my experience from over one decade of regular OD action.
your plants looked too nice and professional especially the light dep, i didn't want to say anything in the beginning but now i did..
I have grown c99 myself and its fast but its faster indoors than OD imho... ID day50-55, OD day 55-60 but they start around august 1st so usually ready september 20+ for me. no living white pistils and 5-10%amber trichs.
wish you the best my friend

[Emeraldo]

No offense taken. Thanks. On the trich ratio, it's my personal preference to wait until at least 50% of trichs are milky. I wish you all the best... Hope the discussion was interesting for you.

Originally Posted by c00k1eFunk

sry bro i really dont want to offend or start a fight. but for me, first week of 12/12 ID is not first week of flowering, its the first week of preflowering.
I come from the OD growing, ID is just fun and exotic genetic(private stash).
Flowering= flowers start to develop.
Stretch, preflowering, flowering.. some of it can go hand in hand but only the formation of true pistils can be called fower onset, since these pistils contein the thc trichomes wich need time to develop and mature and gain high ammount of thc. most of the time these first pistils will be the pistils to turn amber.

You said it , only half of the trichs were MILKY, rest was clear, not all milky and 5-15% amber like it should be. clear trichs= they are not filled with much thc yet. amber= thc starts to break down into CBN or how its shortcut in english...
clear= short duration, trippy nervous high. amber=sedative
I am growing every year different strains outside, i can only determine start of flowering by actually seeing multiplication of flowers(pistils).
Chop time is always when i have 90%milky, even if i see mold, i will chop the moldy bud and let the rest rippen, cuz its not worth the act otherway.

If you do silly things in life most people dont have the courage to tell you you're wrong, they will say YEAH Man, JUMP FROM THE Bridge, you will be a hero you are right... but they don't care if you break your legs. and are not honest. will call you fool behind ya back.
I just want to share my experience from over one decade of regular OD action.
your plants looked too nice and professional especially the light dep, i didn't want to say anything in the beginning but now i did..
I have grown c99 myself and its fast but its faster indoors than OD imho... ID day50-55, OD day 55-60 but they start around august 1st so usually ready september 20+ for me. no living white pistils and 5-10%amber trichs.
wish you the best my friend

[PaulieWaulie]

Sexbud - All Milky Trichs / 25% Amber