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exstr · 02-25-2015, 05:24 AM

What are the best companion plants to put into
indoor no till beds?

Former Guest · 02-25-2015, 06:25 AM

Read this https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=168805

Most use clover but for nitrogen fixers legumes are best.

exstr · 02-26-2015, 07:43 AM

Thanks that thread was full of great information. I think my health food store sells red clover seeds so I may try those as a living mulch. I assume coco coir chips would make a good mulch but I am leaning towards red clover or micro clover of some kind.

Granger2 · 02-26-2015, 10:43 AM

Clover, alfalfa, beans, peas, peanuts, and many other things are legumes. Legumes work symbiotically with certain strains of microbes that take N from the air and put it in plant usable form in nodules on the roots. I wouldn't want them for cover crops after about the 2nd week of bloom. You can grow with them, uproot them at flip, then plant a non legume like Barley for during bloom. Good luck. -granger

exstr · 02-26-2015, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Granger2

Clover, alfalfa, beans, peas, peanuts, and many other things are legumes. Legumes work symbiotically with certain strains of microbes that take N from the air and put it in plant usable form in nodules on the roots. I wouldn't want them for cover crops after about the 2nd week of bloom. You can grow with them, uproot them at flip, then plant a non legume like Barley for during bloom. Good luck. -granger

Thanks for the info, why is barley specific to bloom?

Former Guest · 02-26-2015, 04:16 PM

It's not. Most people use it the whole cycle. Just get some of that with some hay. Clover works best from my reading. I use a dead mulch tho. Leaves, coco chunks, with crab meal, insect frass, and langbeinite. Works great and no mowing your cover crop with scissors.

Granger2 · 02-26-2015, 10:44 PM

Barley is not specific to bloom. I was just stating my preference, since I want better control of N during bloom. Barley's great from start to finish. -granger

Seaf0ur · 03-06-2015, 08:18 PM

I used barley on several separate occasions... ended up like this guy every other day...

I like chia and marigolds for pollen sources for my predator insects and various clovers.
I leave the clover mixed with brown straw and leave it full time to keep up the rhizosphere. the clovers have similar needs and root exudes so they maintain similar conditions below the soil surface.

Grapefruitroop · 03-07-2015, 08:19 AM

I read alfa alfa, birdsfoot trifoil, beans and pea for N
Red Clover, Bckweat for P and Vetches for Ca

Granger2 · 03-08-2015, 12:21 AM

Clovers and vetches also fix N. -granger

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Granger2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Easy St. Posts: 4,412	Clover, alfalfa, beans, peas, peanuts, and many other things are legumes. Legumes work symbiotically with certain strains of microbes that take N from the air and put it in plant usable form in nodules on the roots. I wouldn't want them for cover crops after about the 2nd week of bloom. You can grow with them, uproot them at flip, then plant a non legume like Barley for during bloom. Good luck. -granger __________________ Fully compliant Medical Patient.
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Granger2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Easy St. Posts: 4,412	Barley is not specific to bloom. I was just stating my preference, since I want better control of N during bloom. Barley's great from start to finish. -granger __________________ Fully compliant Medical Patient.
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Seaf0ur Pagan Extremist Join Date: May 2013 Location: In the land of the damned and ignored, past the graveyard of dead Gods, living in shadows. Posts: 6,471	I used barley on several separate occasions... ended up like this guy every other day... I like chia and marigolds for pollen sources for my predator insects and various clovers. I leave the clover mixed with brown straw and leave it full time to keep up the rhizosphere. the clovers have similar needs and root exudes so they maintain similar conditions below the soil surface. __________________ *Guide to Beneficial Insects* *The Terpenes of Cannabis Their Aromas and Effects* In this world there's only one way out.... Close your eyes then... You're in the lions den.... Find a state of Zazen....
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Grapefruitroop Newbie Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: humboldt Posts: 34	I read alfa alfa, birdsfoot trifoil, beans and pea for N Red Clover, Bckweat for P and Vetches for Ca
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02-25-2015, 06:25 AM	#2
Former Guest Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 3,005	Read this https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=168805 Most use clover but for nitrogen fixers legumes are best.
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02-26-2015, 07:43 AM	#3
exstr Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 50	Thanks that thread was full of great information. I think my health food store sells red clover seeds so I may try those as a living mulch. I assume coco coir chips would make a good mulch but I am leaning towards red clover or micro clover of some kind.
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02-26-2015, 04:16 PM	#6
Former Guest Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 3,005	It's not. Most people use it the whole cycle. Just get some of that with some hay. Clover works best from my reading. I use a dead mulch tho. Leaves, coco chunks, with crab meal, insect frass, and langbeinite. Works great and no mowing your cover crop with scissors.
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Granger2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Easy St. Posts: 4,412	Clovers and vetches also fix N. -granger __________________ Fully compliant Medical Patient.
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