[1madtrapper]

Well i can tell yha to try DR.Grn give him a ring he is a grumpy fuker and I sure didnt hi tit off with him but after a few mins on the phone together I thought i would try his stuff.His bubba is like over 100$ per seed.Now let me tell you about the rep the doc haas here, Last Jan I ordered seeds from him after a half ass argument on the phone and stuff he realized i may have been around the corner and he made some good points and I may have touched a few spots on him aswell.Well i said heck with it at the time he accepted visa so i went that route.He send me the beans i wanted, I tried half of them ona plate along side many new strains i had been trying.Well the seeds didnt pop, I took pics of the next 5 along side other brands of seeds on the same tray sent em to doc after 24 hrs all the other brands had 1/2 root started and the docs were bunk.So I talked to the grump ol bugger again and he told me send em back then so i did he then sent me double my order for the trouble.So to me thats service second to none.Then all seeds i ever germinated from him have all sprouted I lost one out of like 70 so I can vouch for his germ rate aswell.I got some pics of his strains but like i said earlier I have not tried the MTF I will buy some this week when they come in which will be next wk i will post pics of the shipping letter and the seeds then the germ rate and if you lucky i will mail you a cpl seeds.Cheers heading to town now put order in.All I can say on the docs prices is they are way high but the quality of the stuff seems to be worth it you can take a million clones of a momma if you want the original in a non feminised seed self it and do it yourself simple..

[1madtrapper]

Sorry I just realized he is looking for the ATF

[soserthc1]

It's a clone only strain and there are quite a few holding it , just need to know the right people but I'm guessing this thread is a step in that direction

[soserthc1]

Edit , using the great breeders line will not get a response as great most great breeders are humble

[OgRastaman]

I ment the great broader who came up with the strain, I been talkin to the doc thru emails and he the ATF is the same as MTF rolondomota can you tell me the difference? Can any one else vouch for the docs rep?

[soserthc1]

If your talking thadocta he knows his shit but just in this thread you got greyskull posting and his advise is what I would be heeding .....

[sgbfcoop]

I think both names could of been used interchanably in the past. Remember just because they call is X Y Z in a club doesn't mean that is what the grower grew. Clubs rename shit all the time.

I recommend hitting up the Alaskan forums on here as well.

[Greyskull]

Originally Posted by rolandomota

This clone only is not widespread im sure someones hoarding it somwhere...

That would be the best thing for the plant, if it was in fact being hoarded.... that would mean it is getting extra special attention from its caretaker to ensure its preservation as an individual.

Things not hoarded are whored... things that get whored do not get loved and adored they get used abused and tossed for the next thing thats hot.

hoarding isn't a bad thing if you ask me....

ATF & MTF I can see being the same thing- THUNDERFUCK, just with a different regional attachment latched onto it. but there could easily be two separate entities with the same genealogy ala the classic "pure" OGs Fire/Tahoe/SFV/Valley etc....

btw - you should search thru some of member superjoint's posts regarding MTF & ATF maybe theres some good info in his posts you can use.

good luck in your quest
Aloha

[OgRastaman]

Originally Posted by Greyskull

That would be the best thing for the plant, if it was in fact being hoarded.... that would mean it is getting extra special attention from its caretaker to ensure its preservation as an individual.

Things not hoarded are whored... things that get whored do not get loved and adored they get used abused and tossed for the next thing thats hot.

hoarding isn't a bad thing if you ask me....

ATF & MTF I can see being the same thing- THUNDERFUCK, just with a different regional attachment latched onto it. but there could easily be two separate entities with the same genealogy ala the classic "pure" OGs Fire/Tahoe/SFV/Valley etc....

btw - you should search thru some of member superjoint's posts regarding MTF & ATF maybe theres some good info in his posts you can use.

good luck in your quest
Aloha

Thanks Greyskull I will check out super joint and see what they have to say about this topic, makes sense like the different og"s, there could be a slight difference between ATF and MTF the doc told,me they were the same but I,don't know if he is just trying to sell his gear or if he is telling me the truth don't want to get burned his gear is pricy
150 ! ! For 5 beans ouch especially if it's not the real deal if it Is than it will be well worth the $$$

[TrinZilla]

She is still around, in both clone and seedlines... Here is our MTF x Lavender, called ThunderLuv:



The cross is heavily MTF dominant, with no discernible Lavender traits as far as color, flavor or smell are concerned. We are seeing 24% average THC. Infer what you will from THC numbers, but the high from ThunderLuv is noticeably different and potent. Backcrossing and selfing projects are currently underway, and once stabilized will be made available.

Good luck in your search, know that she is still alive and well so don't give up!