[Apache Kush]

the reason its so hard to find is the whole story the original guy's in the PNW got raided and lost the strain to the law, only what survived was all crosses of it with other plants...anyone know what Im talking about?
i loved the ATF we got back in the day here in AZ it was fire

[OgRastaman]

I know it's around some where I saw that sagarmartha Has beans of the Mtf but I don't trust that's it's the real deal I'm not trying to waist my $ Ya Dig I don't mind paying for the real deal to my knowledge it was a clone only strain chocolate taste fat nugs heavy hitting flavour and potency


1Maddtrapper not really looking for any auto flower maybe the East Coast Diesel And the MTF from the doc. Wish he had these in a regular version and not feminized so far he looks like the real deal But he is super pricy any one else on here with some good rep. Ever tried Dr. Greenthumbs gear out? Geremanition rates? Any recent grows? All I find in the web is old pics from 2011,2012 a lot can happen over time with genetics and strain not trying to spend $$$$ on watered down gens!!

[stoned40yrs]

Originally Posted by Apache Kush

the reason its so hard to find is the whole story the original guy's in the PNW got raided and lost the strain to the law, only what survived was all crosses of it with other plants...anyone know what Im talking about?
i loved the ATF we got back in the day here in AZ it was fire

I read that fairy tale story So the premise of the story is only one guy made it out of Alaska alive with some MTF, moved down to Oregon or Washington and now it's gone eh I've been in Alaska since the early 70s, right here in the Matanuska valley. MTF never left, I grew some for the hell of it last year. Clone only that had been kept growing since the early 80s. It was just like I remember it from back in the day. Premium stuff- only if you compare it to the shit Colombian, Jamaican, Mexican and Thai that was on the streets in the 60s and 70s. It can't hold the jockstrap for todays strains. I have 8 zips jarred up and curing. I culled it. Don't waste your time looking for it unless you are a breeder wanting to improve it. It belongs back in the past where it was great

[stoned40yrs]

Originally Posted by OgRastaman

I know it's around some where I saw that sagarmartha Has beans of the Mtf but I don't trust that's it's the real deal I'm not trying to waist my $ Ya Dig I don't mind paying for the real deal to my knowledge it was a clone only strain chocolate taste fat nugs heavy hitting flavour and potency

The original here is clone only but people here have been crossing it and leaving the name the same because the NAME sells. The original clone is piney, minty with some musk. The one thing you can't miss is the airy buds. It was only potent back in the day against the competition. Naming it Matanuska Thunderfuck was pure genius, say that name and then show a bag of anything and it sells

[OgRastaman]

Originally Posted by stoned40yrs

The original here is clone only but people here have been crossing it and leaving the name the same because the NAME sells. The original clone is piney, minty with some musk. The one thing you can't miss is the airy buds. It was only potent back in the day against the competition. Naming it Matanuska Thunderfuck was pure genius, say that name and then show a bag of anything and it sells

Yes you could put a name on anything and sell it to anybody that's exactly why I'm tryin to find out some info on Dr. Greenthumb do you have the clone? I'm .,not looking for a cross want the real deal it's out there in clone or seed somewhere
Bless!

[Apache Kush]

yeah man ^ same fairy tale story haha. I read once upon a time...

Now its clone only form etc. Or crossed with other etc. that what I remember reading too..

[Apache Kush]

Come to think of it the stuff we got in AZ, the most memorable trait was how dense the nugs were! A g of ''ATF'' was 25$ but a gram was so dense it looked like you were getting shorted, only one small dense as fuck nug... with dark hues of purple almost black among the greenery depending on the lighting..

so in no way was it ''airy buds'' quite the opposite... in my experinece but*

we were getting scamed now that I think about it but what ever it was real or not I always loved ATF cuase it keep you high for hours all day and the little nugs packed a primo punch, prob just name dropping like you said, well we bought it hook line and sinker ahah

also I can link a guy on a ICMAG grow report on ''Blue ATF'' looked legit and he named the breeder too ''dude genetics?''

check it *https://www.icmag.com/modules/ICStra...wreport&id=669 BATF'' also saw a thread on here with blonde atf...keep searching Ill be lurking always wanted it in my stable too. There is a number of threads on here if you use the search feature you might find your answers or a legit cut still on the market today

[Apache Kush]

just saw this too ICMAG for a BATF https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=280378

[OgRastaman]

Originally Posted by Apache Kush

just saw this too ICMAG for a BATF https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=280378

I don't remember any airy nugs but the nugs I remember we're small and very dense very strong gave me the giggles and the munchies,

I've looked at the thread on the BATF but the end results were hermy plants I need something stable

[Apache Kush]

yup