[weedtoker]

Actually didn't find it so strange. Did a 10 (11) pack last year, as I stressed them (indoor 1st gen, light stress, nutes) to the point of finding that I only had a true female and by chance what I think it qualifies as a real male (after 3 runs, stresses and abuses, never seen a hair). I might not have stressed them like I did, but in doing so even the females who looked like real females turned to something else until mid flowering (from a few bananas, to half pollen sacks). For people only interested in having smoke, may I suggest a light mix and avoiding to much stress with them, bearing in mind from what is available of info around, that this is P1 stock that never saw anything besides mexican sierra and good 'ol sun, then some of the ones who put on those expressions might be full sensi by the end of the cycle.

Anyways, and IMHO do think one of the point of landrace and this kind of heirlooms, is finding the ones who are worth it. So mega props, to cannabiogen for doing this release. Reminding me, that I have to buy another pack or two again to screen along the cross of those two parents for sure

[iskra]

Really? A 40%+ herm rate is acceptable to you? Your bar is set too low my friend. This is a perfect example of unstable product that should never have been prematurely released to the public. With all the quality seed available these days it is not necessary to settle for inferior seed. If you are looking for mex seed look elsewhere.

[weedtoker]

Let's try this one more time...

You're naive to think that if this is parent stock from Mexico, and a non worked line, it will not show everything bad that it's got when you subject them to the gold bland indoor growspace (Again, in my case even more with induced stressing). You had basically every other line that they offer to choose for sexual stability and you try your go with a non worked line from mexico. And by the way, that's really the only con that the line has, because they're basically indestructible to every other abuse, from extreme heat to cold, under/overferting (the ones who really are true sex), and besides they've got some vigor going. Just stress a bit of the dutch/spanish copy scene like i do and you get the same for so called worked lines (wich are just poorly inbred) and you pay premium.

[weedtoker]

Can't edit, seems that i need to be a babbler...

when I said "gold bland indoor growspace " I meant "good old bland indoor(...)". Also my sh**** writing in english may make you think otherwise, but even the intersex ones looked indestructible, it was just that the firm sex ones, had all the other killer traits plus looking until now only one and true sex (the male reeks, even in veg of a smell that can only be described as a freshly-cut lime, female cut that survived my criteria smells during flower like some bush that we have around the coastline, slightly sweet and spicy).

Now if you didn't find the info that you needed before, have some links so you can find for yourself the type of fields that were planted there (mexi genetics and others) and what people have to bear to make this things get to you, for then to be bashed by someone that didn't bother reading their homework before buying.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=234701
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=207264

and I think there's more info/images around the cannabiogen forum, but I will rest my case.

[Croissant]

deer mr weedtoker,

I was wondering if you could perhaps do a smoke report?

did you get the sweet vanilla and spice smell of the other dude?

[weedtoker]

That's something that I will abstain to do in detail for now. Have smoked here and there until the end of the year when it was "fresh", now i'm kinda going cold turkey for the herb and cigarettes to leave nicotine for once... So will do that later on after this little barrier and a nice cure. I do have some pictures lost on an HD and will make some more of the ongoing round, to show what I got, soon.

Wouldn't say vanilla during flowering (indoor hps and halide), again the best comparison that I have for the example of female kept, is a bush that we have spread around some areas of the coastline (don't even know if it's native). It is a strange sickly sweet, almost too much to bear, that does lead to some woody/spicy thing going on. I do have to say tough, that those early samples were, again, for lack of better explanation, sweet and surprisingly smooth.

[iskra]

I came here not to bash but to offer an honest assessment of my experience...
While I appreciate your efforts at damage control your condescending tone is inappropriate.


As a regular bloke (which I am guessing makes up most of this website,) I go to the CBG website or in this case a reputable seed bank and rely on the description of seed before I purchase. I do my homework. From CBG: "Local Cola Borrego from Sinaloa, a Mexican variety full of aroma with a citrus taste and clean, a fast flowering Sativa." Seedsman description is similar: "Local Mexican Sinaloan line of citric aroma and taste and quick flowering." It is described as an Indoor/Outdoor variety. Where is the disclosure that this is p1 stock, of high herm rates, indoor stressed, unworked lines, etc? Oh yeah, where's the disclosure about powdery mildew because it's occurs on this strain. And you say that this is my fault? Had this information been disclosed in the first place I would not have purchased this line. I don't have 12-14 weeks of la-la-la time for what you are now saying is an untried line- a line that damn near jeopardized my STABLE thai and mango haze lines by being in the same room and spewing indiscriminately.

And now you're babbling about "what people have to bear to make this things get to you." Now that you mention it, I probably shouldn't support this line if I'm putting people in danger.

Many of us here buy on trust, on what we read or hear or personally experience. I trust companies to be forthcoming regarding their product. I've had a high regard for CBG in the past but your condescension and your attempts to explain away detrimental facts only digs a larger hole of doubt regarding this line.

I've been growing mex and col since the 60's and 70's and I'm guessing you weren't around then. We never had these kinds of problems i.e. high herm rates back then. A lot of this came about through bad genetics and bad breeding.

[Carraxe]

Originally Posted by iskra

I came here not to bash but to offer an honest assessment of my experience...

Go fuck yourself
Thanks

[iskra]

Originally Posted by Carraxe

Go fuck yourself
Thanks

Wow some people can't even articulate intelligently here. Just grunts and groans. You don't even know me, I have not wronged you, yet you feel free to insult, to insert yourself into someone else's business. And while you chase your tail because you don't know any better... you seem unable to offer constructive dialogue regarding Jarilla. Have you grown it? What was your experience? Did you keep a mother or clones? Will you grow it again? What did you like best about the strain? How does it compare to say El Dorado from Nirvana or some of DJ's stuff or even to Destroyer? Perhaps you've no experience in various sativas- just some closet loudmouth who hides from the light of day. On the other hand, if you do then speak up so we can benefit from your knowledge and wisdom. If you don't then STFU and go away. You have no power if you only limit yourself to spewing expletives and hate towards people you don't know. "Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery none but ourselves can free our minds" B.Marley

[weedtoker]

When I say "rest my case" I'm not lying, besides it's a lost battle entering in an argument over the internet.

So just participating with what I have found/made for and dig a bit more my own hole, it is said that a good hole keeps temperatures average year round so for those who want to read on and watch me babble while seeing some images fucked by never shutting of fans/ setting up White Balance:

Jarilla de Sinaloa P1 stock, one of the first clones I took alongside some for mothers. Flowered with little less than 20cm's (that's less than 8in for you imperial users) just after transplant from a small party cup, and at the time of the image, suffering severely of rootbinding (in the image, in 3 liters, less than a gallon), lack of nutes, thrip/red mite attack and extreme hot temps for indoor (constant 30ºC+ during their daytime) with some imposed droughts and light regimen flipped during critical nightime period along the way. Still need to find the image of the final cola, but I will tell my "fisherman's story" for those who want to believe. Those last nodes turned bigger than the classic measurement can of cola as dry nug (even if not as compact as most of the "neder-hazes". How much did it yield? Don't really weigh things for my smoke, but if we "give the discount" for being a little less compact, I would say by eye at least average/good even after being put to many stress. Bananas or sacks on this one? Again 0, nada, my friends.




And now on the ongoing round, on the day that has made 6 weeks since the change of photoperiod, and for the first time experiencing horizontal mode while tolerating 16-18ºC during her night with relative humidity never below 70%, yet again surviving a pest attack again started in a poly that's looks a magnet.






And again polinated early twice on two select branches that get less light by the male that passed my tests. (here you'll understand the white balance warning, cause I've never seen blue pollen particles eheh)




So ya, as an average homegrower, I do have to vouch for this kind of releases, be them rare, or not. I'll try keep updating at least every now and then, and will try to find the final image from the last run.