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Grow Tech · 02-22-2015, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Frostbyte

Ya that's a huge difference in amounts used.. .5g of silver is not much. My larger scale had a hard time with it. My smaller scale is not a 3 decimal point so had to make it blink between 2-3g.. Probably doesn't need to be that accurate but tried my best.

Grow Tech

How much stock of silver is mixed into Stock of Sodium?? 100ml/300ml?

Couldn't we just change the ratio by reducing the amount of RO? use 100ml silver mixed into 500ml sodium for a 1:5 mix?? Going to try the 1:9 since you got that working. I can always try the 1:5 later

not 100% sure I get the question but per the recipe it's 500 mL
of each

GET MO · 02-22-2015, 04:18 AM

Yes it does! Thats y my second spray i up'd it to 1:7. If chimera said go 1:5 I'm sure that would work too.
Its crazy because if you didn't dilute this solution AT ALL, it would still be a lot less potent then the other recipe.

Hammerhead · 02-22-2015, 04:25 AM

Agreed very odd, I did not need to make that much with using 900ml of RO so I cut it in half to 50ml of stock to 450ml RO...500ml almost filled the spray bottle...

I trashed the other plant. She looked awful im sure the other recipe was to strong..When this bottle is used I will make it 1:5..That's still much weaker then the other recipe. I just sprayed the last one I had that was ready for flower. This one is the largest of the ones I have sprayed. The rest are way to small..I fell much more confident now that you have done these tests. When I use the stuff I got from Bud research the plant did not get all pissed off like these are. that one was 1:9 since I bought there mix. It comes pre measured you just need to add RO.

Grow Tech · 02-22-2015, 04:30 AM

I've actually gotten selfed seeds off a plant by waiting till she showed pistils and then starting the STS sprays. You gotta keep her/him healthy enough to get the se3ds to mature

Hammerhead · 02-22-2015, 05:03 AM

The other thing I noticed was it only indicates 1 application is needed. You used 2 1 week apart.. I will do that but wont wait a week. After this 1st application dries I will do it again...

GET MO · 02-22-2015, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Purple Frostbyte

The other thing I noticed was it only indicates 1 application is needed. You used 2 1 week apart.. I will do that but wont wait a week. After this 1st application dries I will do it again...

Im updating the first post to clarify this, I actually sprayed, waited 1-2 hours, then sprayed again for all applications.

GET MO · 02-23-2015, 12:39 AM

A wider view to see effect on plants...

Recipe 1

Recipe 2

Hammerhead · 03-06-2015, 09:42 AM

After we mix the 20ml of silver to the 80ml of sodium that gets mixed into 400mls of RO for a 1:4 mix I think..The mix we used was not just strait STOCK SOLUTION LOL had to be. This is why the plants where so damaged. This is what I think happened. Waiting for a response...

I also sent BS a email asking about there recipe. There so different I wanted to know why. one uses RO to dilute the other uses no RO to dilute and much more Silver. I sent them a link to the 1:4 recipe. I wanted to here what they have to say about it. I have not herd back from them. Even though it says The STS solution is prepared with a molar ratio between silver and thiosulfate of 1:4, respectively with no RO to dilute I think this is wrong. Having no RO makes it so strong it damages the plants big time...

GET MO · 03-06-2015, 10:08 AM

Wowww... haha! Well shit, now we know! That one is still looking hurt but throwing HELLA balls, its just like they more cramped then the other ones, more in the buds. I wanted to get some pictures today but my girl "put away" my camera, n when she put shit away it sometimes never shows up again...

Hammerhead · 03-06-2015, 10:45 AM

Not sure yet I'm waiting for a response from them. If they say the 1:4 is correct I don't think they know what there doing.

I'm using a 1:5 using recipe #1 mix. So instead of 900mls of RO I used 500...My 1st plant using the 1:4 also was all messed up. Had tons of balls but would not drop pollen

02-22-2015, 04:18 AM	#12
GET MO Registered Med User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: with shovel, ya dig? Posts: 7,523	Yes it does! Thats y my second spray i up'd it to 1:7. If chimera said go 1:5 I'm sure that would work too. Its crazy because if you didn't dilute this solution AT ALL, it would still be a lot less potent then the other recipe. __________________ DEATHS FROM CIGARETTES:.......300,000 DEATHS FROM ALCOHOL:.............90,000 DEATHS FROM CANNABIS .............................. .............................. .......someone might die........someday ........................... -CA Med Patient in compliance with SB 420/Prop 215- IG Drohammad -Get Mo's Grow Log- -Relentless Genetics Grow- -Ace genetics grow- BloomShotz!! Dried Bud Shots... Vert Baby!!!
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02-22-2015, 04:25 AM	#13
Hammerhead Tired Farmer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 33,984	Agreed very odd, I did not need to make that much with using 900ml of RO so I cut it in half to 50ml of stock to 450ml RO...500ml almost filled the spray bottle... I trashed the other plant. She looked awful im sure the other recipe was to strong..When this bottle is used I will make it 1:5..That's still much weaker then the other recipe. I just sprayed the last one I had that was ready for flower. This one is the largest of the ones I have sprayed. The rest are way to small..I fell much more confident now that you have done these tests. When I use the stuff I got from Bud research the plant did not get all pissed off like these are. that one was 1:9 since I bought there mix. It comes pre measured you just need to add RO. __________________ #hammerheadgenetics
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02-22-2015, 04:30 AM	#14
Grow Tech I've got a stalk of sinsemilla growing in my back yard Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,772	I've actually gotten selfed seeds off a plant by waiting till she showed pistils and then starting the STS sprays. You gotta keep her/him healthy enough to get the se3ds to mature __________________ Do Good Works!
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02-22-2015, 05:03 AM	#15
Hammerhead Tired Farmer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 33,984	The other thing I noticed was it only indicates 1 application is needed. You used 2 1 week apart.. I will do that but wont wait a week. After this 1st application dries I will do it again... __________________ #hammerheadgenetics
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02-23-2015, 12:39 AM	#17
GET MO Registered Med User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: with shovel, ya dig? Posts: 7,523	A wider view to see effect on plants... Recipe 1 Recipe 2 __________________ DEATHS FROM CIGARETTES:.......300,000 DEATHS FROM ALCOHOL:.............90,000 DEATHS FROM CANNABIS .............................. .............................. .......someone might die........someday ........................... -CA Med Patient in compliance with SB 420/Prop 215- IG Drohammad -Get Mo's Grow Log- -Relentless Genetics Grow- -Ace genetics grow- BloomShotz!! Dried Bud Shots... Vert Baby!!!
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03-06-2015, 09:42 AM	#18
Hammerhead Tired Farmer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 33,984	After we mix the 20ml of silver to the 80ml of sodium that gets mixed into 400mls of RO for a 1:4 mix I think..The mix we used was not just strait STOCK SOLUTION LOL had to be. This is why the plants where so damaged. This is what I think happened. Waiting for a response... I also sent BS a email asking about there recipe. There so different I wanted to know why. one uses RO to dilute the other uses no RO to dilute and much more Silver. I sent them a link to the 1:4 recipe. I wanted to here what they have to say about it. I have not herd back from them. Even though it says The STS solution is prepared with a molar ratio between silver and thiosulfate of 1:4, respectively with no RO to dilute I think this is wrong. Having no RO makes it so strong it damages the plants big time... __________________ #hammerheadgenetics Last edited by Hammerhead; 11-05-2017 at 10:44 PM..
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03-06-2015, 10:08 AM	#19
GET MO Registered Med User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: with shovel, ya dig? Posts: 7,523	Wowww... haha! Well shit, now we know! That one is still looking hurt but throwing HELLA balls, its just like they more cramped then the other ones, more in the buds. I wanted to get some pictures today but my girl "put away" my camera, n when she put shit away it sometimes never shows up again... __________________ DEATHS FROM CIGARETTES:.......300,000 DEATHS FROM ALCOHOL:.............90,000 DEATHS FROM CANNABIS .............................. .............................. .......someone might die........someday ........................... -CA Med Patient in compliance with SB 420/Prop 215- IG Drohammad -Get Mo's Grow Log- -Relentless Genetics Grow- -Ace genetics grow- BloomShotz!! Dried Bud Shots... Vert Baby!!!
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03-06-2015, 10:45 AM	#20
Hammerhead Tired Farmer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 33,984	Not sure yet I'm waiting for a response from them. If they say the 1:4 is correct I don't think they know what there doing. I'm using a 1:5 using recipe #1 mix. So instead of 900mls of RO I used 500...My 1st plant using the 1:4 also was all messed up. Had tons of balls but would not drop pollen __________________ #hammerheadgenetics
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