[Yes4Prop215]

Update on my Four seasons kits. One of my 24x80s took a total shit on me! First, this winter has been brutal at my elevation. Then, during a big storm, my worker failed to lower the exterior dep tarps to allow water to run off. this ended up with several hundred gallons of water on the ceiling of my cold frame, which stressed and crushed 10 beams. To top it off, the winds came in and totally ripped off both the plastic and blackout film. Total repair bill will come close to 10k after parts and labor.

My other 2 GHs held up perfectly, we kept the tarps down and everything.

In the future, DEFINATELY GO A-FRAME. Round cold frames are a disaster for snow loads. A Frames are much easier to allow water to run off properly.

My kits are still kicking, they could use a fresh coat of paint because some of the wood panels are rotting, but I should get a solid summer out of them. Aiming to pull 120-140 out of a 24x80 with 76 large blue dream plants in 25 gal pots. I'm stopping fucking around with fancy low yielders. I hit 2lbs a plant with BD and then only got half P a plant on some other loser strains. Il do all the fancy shit In my new tester and indoors rooms, and keep the sungrown strictly about the bulk.

[caterpillar710]

Originally Posted by Deezl

FF greenhouses are agratech rebranded plus $.

I got mine through FF anyway. Customer service is great. Agratech won't even admit that their GHs can be depped. They won't "knowingly" sell you one for our industry.

That's not true at all agratech sells you the same stuff as FF for 30% less

[TheOutlawTree]

Been busy being a tire kicker....ended up getting quotes from Conleys for a 1/2 acre gable structure with 14ft gutter heights, internal dep system, all bells and whistles...440k after freight and tax. That doesn't include your foundation / slab, the cost of wiring, gavitas, power drop, or assembly of greenhouse. I haven't done anymore research to figure out how much assembly or a large power drop would cost...

got a quote for an agratech gable structure, just the shell of it with no dep Setup...it was just under 300k without assembly

Contacted several Canadian company's but never heard back with quotes

I'm going cheap route / sticking with karmens gh. You can have nicely functioning 30x100s with 4ft vertical walls and hoops on top making centers just under 20ft, 6 48" fans (~60k cfm ), 2 ptp200s per gh ( 1 on both ends ), double layered poly film w blowers ( high elevation insulation ) for around 24k or so. That doesn't include assembly but these are simple. You could call it 30k to be safe, cement for posts and hourly labor will cost a bit.

I'm not concerned with snow...but myne are only going to be meant for full / regular growing season, plastic will be taken down before winter

the karmens gh hoops dont have ridge vents so in lower / normal elevations these may not work without cooling, not sure. I'm goin up to 5000ft elevation, should be ok for me, will be 85 when it's 105 in the valley

[Deezl]

I was planning on buying direct from agrotech. I had a question about interior dep and they said their greenhouses couldn't fit it and acted like no one would ever use their greenhouses for dep. I already knew that they were the same greenhouses that are set up w dep systems all of the time by FF.
The folks at forever flowering helped me design my own manual interior dep (that I built myself) for free. I called them hella times w questions about details about building out my plywood end walls etc.
Their customer service was worth the extra money. I bought a small kit so it wasn't that big of a difference.
The markup was too big on the light traps though, so I went w the emerald kingdom/alibaba ones for cheap.

[Deezl]

But, that said, if I was buying another one (now that I am comfortable building one out) I would be tempted to go w agratech and save money. But if it was financially doable I'd probly go w FF again because they helped me before so they deserve my business.

[Deezl]

And the default kit from FF had taller sidewalls and I wanted that. Now that I see how simple the kit is I'd maybe just get longer pipes for the sides and raise it myself or ask them to swap em out or something.

[Deezl]

Basically my advice is if it's your first build and you can afford it then buy from a company that is set up for "crop specific" use.
If you know exactly what yer doin go get the greenie from the source supplier.
Or something. Peace!

[CrushnYuba]

The FF dudes are rad. They definitely know what's up but their systems are just way to expensive and complicated. Even with their homeboy discount it's out of my price range. I would love to give them my business. But do I really need 20 rack and pinion setups to do what 2 roll up motors can do? That being said, if I'm in a pinch I will buy supplies from them because it's local so no shipping and they give a small discount for friends. They do know their stuff.

[Cadfael]

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[Oedipus]

Has anybody worked with karmen's greenhouse's in grass valley? I've seen a picture on craiglist for frame running $1,800.00 and thought it looked pretty rustic , 1,800 is about my price range though because i feel for that price i can potentially build a larger hoop house