[Closet Funk]

What would be the outcome of crossing an IBL strain with a common Landrace? of course it would be a F1 hyrid, but how stable would the offspring be? would it take more work to stablelize it then say crossing random plants like most of us do? I'm curious because I happen to get lucky enough to get ahold of some nice Landrace strains and I want to do some breeding in the future with them. I figure they would be the best to use in a breeding project. What better would it be then to cross it with a IBL. They say that IBL's are pefect for F1 seed stock. Any info is well appreciated.

[TAG-monk]

A F-1 is as stable as is parent are. You cant really have more stable then landrace, or at least cleaned up landrace. Do you have any idea of the IBL you want to use? In the days we live in, IBL often only represent true-breeding for a single trait. The most stable modern IBL that i can think of is the skunk, which can even be seen as an "americain landrace" because of its stability. Other then that,..you dont have to worry...you dont have to cross with a skunk to have a nice stable hybrid...in fact the SDIBL looks like it could be interesting Hum.

I should say that even some landrace can even have been a F1 in the past...and then stabilised for centuries by the local farmers.

[Closet Funk]

The IBL's I had in mind so far are Deep Chunk, Kodiak Gold, Sour Diesel, and maybe Burmese. I would say Deep Chunk and Kodiak Gold would be my pics because I'm going to be crossing it to a 100% Sativa. I would first grow out my landraces and see what kind of traits they carry. Then I would see what IBL's have the same traits.

[Reign of Terror]

an ibl is homozygous, and the landrace isnt, its not the most uniform thing, like nepalese strains are breed for resin, but they arent breed in a controlled way, thus you would have to breed and select yourself a couple of generations to get better results

crossing a homozygous strain to a herterozygous strain = a homozygous dom strain

Reign

for example, haze, is an ibl, but it isnt stabilized, there where no slected phenos breed out. so if you crossed that to the stable and ibl deep chuck, deep chunk would be dominate in the cross

[TAG-monk]

Oh, then i was right, you dont have to worry. The DeepChunk is a landrace, the burmese is a landrace(if its pure....of course). And the kodiak gold looks massivly inbred, by reefeerman, someone we can thrust about breeding knowledge.

But i must say that Sour Diesel IBL x Pure landrace sativa would be fantastic....the SD beeing mostly sativa, crossing it with a pure sat would give sativa dominant high and a crazy effect.



ROT- Youre right, this is why i have specified "cleaned up" landrace.

[Closet Funk]

I'm sure I would have to do a few crosses in order to get what I wanted. I don't expect to just cross the two together and get a 100% stable strain.

[Reign of Terror]

deepchucnk is not a landrace

landraces are not stabilized strains!!!

[Closet Funk]

Originally Posted by TAG-monk

But i must say that Sour Diesel IBL x Pure landrace sativa would be fantastic....the SD beeing mostly sativa, crossing it with a pure sat would give sativa dominant high and a crazy effect.

That would be a nice cross. If I ever can ahold of that Sour D IBL I might think about that. I'll probally do a few with a few IBL's. I have 3 Landraces to work with, all Caribbean Sativas.

[Reign of Terror]

yes a bred landrace would be considered stabilized if certain phenos were stabilized

[TAG-monk]

So what it is? Landrace doesnt mean seeds you've collect in the jungle. A strain is a original LAND, race, until it has been hybridised, period.