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Old 11-30-2015, 02:01 PM #111
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Butt dope research always uses esters, because THC was not absorbed in monkeys once and no one has ever contradicted that in a peer reviewed journal or the THC suppository patents. The Dr. appears to be oblivious to all that, so don't count on that emergency rectal CBD administration either.
Ummm, 200 mg of cannabis absolute in a coco butter suppository certainly demonstrated THC effects when I personally tested it and the cancer patients we've made them for report effects as well.

Hee, hee, hee, wait till I tell you where we all stuck them!
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How is something a known fact, weather its true or not.
When it's published in a respected science journal, which heavyweights in the field then cite when making statements in their own work like THC itself totally lacks bioavailability from suppositories, accompanied by statements like these from U.S. Pat. 4,933,363:

Studies have shown that there was no absorption, consequently no bioavailability achieved via the rectal route using various suppository formulations.

Neither delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol nor its metabolite was detected in any of the blood samples, confirming the lack of bioavailability of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol itself from a suppository dosage form.


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Ummm, 200 mg of cannabis absolute in a coco butter suppository certainly demonstrated THC effects when I personally tested it and the cancer patients we've made them for report effects as well.
This then is a golden opportunity for the crew to get published in at least an open-access journal, to everlasting fame. Wouldn't young biochemistry student Joe be stoked to write the first science showing THC or metabolites in the blood of a posse of primates after - sorry, none before - a mass anal insertion of THC party?
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Ok enough anal probing activity going on in here to get us all banned, just kidding!

So go joe are you stating that you believe suppositories will get thc into the blood stream in humans or not?

Have you tried it yourself as gw had(not sure I would be that brave unless I was very ill)?
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Ummm, 200 mg of cannabis absolute in a coco butter suppository certainly demonstrated THC effects when I personally tested it and the cancer patients we've made them for report effects as well.

Hee, hee, hee, wait till I tell you where we all stuck them!

So, where'd ya'll stuck em?
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Dark dank places, where the sun doesn't shine, though there is nothing in them, except for the mental image, precluding eating them.
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Have you tried it yourself as gw had(not sure I would be that brave unless I was very ill)?
I couldn't in good faith give them to a patient without trying them myself, but haven't done followup trials, because I didn't much care for the insertion part.

I turned down the HAO suppository trials because of my suspicion that the cinnamon and myrrh might add entourage effects, significantly altering the experience.

I'm pleased to say, that was a good call, as the experimenter who did, reported quicker uptake, but seriously unpleasant side effects involving perceived heat.
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I couldn't in good faith give them to a patient without trying them myself, but haven't done followup trials, because I didn't much care for the insertion part.

I turned down the HAO suppository trials because of my suspicion that the cinnamon and myrrh might add entourage effects, significantly altering the experience.

I'm pleased to say, that was a good call, as the experimenter who did, reported quicker uptake, but seriously unpleasant side effects involving perceived heat.
This is science in its finest moment. We know that cinnamon and myrrh cause a burning sensation when in the oral cavity, so we can hypothesize that a similar effect will occur in the rectal cavity. I better call in a test subject for this..... moments later... hypothesis confirmed!
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When explain this...
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