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Chimera · 02-09-2015, 10:42 AM

In nature cannabis mothers give their life to bring about the future generations, holding on to the seeds until they succumb to the cold or drought. We treat our ladies as if they were pregnant mothers, and allow them a full diet of nutrients so they can nurture the delicate embryos forming within. The seeds sit on the vine well past sprout-able maturity until they rattle in their pods, and only once the plant enters senescence are they harvested and allowed to dry slowly until the flowers reach about 10% moisture content where they are left for a couple of weeks most often.

The buds are then flash dried in a low humidity, low temperature room until the flowers are crisp and fall apart easily in a pollinator type device where we collect any remaining medicine. The flowers break apart with the gentle tumbling action and give up the majority of the seed, which is then collected and separated from the chaff with a sieve to remove the stems and then gentle winnowing process.

We then further air dry the seeds until they reach about 10% moisture content, and at this point the seed is placed in a conditioned environment @ 4 degree Celsius, where they wait a final cleaning and sorting. Seeds are only packaged before shipping to maintain the most consistent treatment amongst the family, and preserve the viability for as long as possible. With this treatment seeds can maintain an excellent germination for well over a decade, and still maintain a decent germination potential up to 20 years if the uniform environment can be maintained.

Our philosophy is to try and replicate the process that occurs in nature, but minimize any negative effects of an inconsistent environment that might happen due to seasonal fluctuations and changes in humidity and temperature.. We spare no expense to preserve your seeds with dutiful care and attention, because they are our greatest pleasure and we wish for them to bring you every bit of enjoyment that they bring to us.

-Chimera
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Mad Lab · 02-09-2015, 11:09 AM

very mellifluous.

Krausen · 02-09-2015, 06:41 PM

Chi - Any insights on how a homegrower should store your seeds? 4*C at what RH? I was thinking a small cooler in the back of a fridge. I've got a growing collection of seeds that i intend to keep for quite some time.

dank.frank · 02-09-2015, 06:56 PM

Nice post, Chimera. Appreciate the insight.

dank.Frank

Sunfire · 02-09-2015, 07:24 PM

I've always read as cold and dry as possible. After getting them completely dry with a dehumidifier, I pack them in jars with plenty of color changing desiccant and then put the jars in the freezer. I think stable is the most important part. The temp is a fridge changes often if you re using that fridge. A self defrosting freezer is no good as well. If you are super serious you can get a small little chest freezer off craigslist just for your little babes.

trichrider · 02-09-2015, 07:34 PM

well maintained in the salad crisper which doesn't fluctuate when opening the door...

comforting to know you take such pride in your work. big ups brother!

so many seeds, so little time...

El Gato · 02-09-2015, 09:22 PM

I keep mine in the freezer, in the original packs buried in rice in mason jars and have zero issues germing seeds as far back as 94. If I had older I wouldn't expect an issue with them either.

sourpuss · 02-12-2015, 12:23 AM

Hmm was wondering if the self thawing freezer was a bad idea... something about making the seed fragile when froze doesnt appeal to me... think im gonna move em to the crisper...

Sunfire · 02-12-2015, 03:38 AM

So the auto defrost freezer is bad because of the temperature fluctuations experienced during the thawing process.

All frozen seeds will be more fragile, especially at -20 or -30F. Just be careful with them. If you plan on getting into the containers often. Make a bunch of little paper sachets and put ten or so seeds in each one so you don't disturb all of them to pull a few out.

soopy · 02-12-2015, 03:46 AM

Excellent info Chimera, thank you.

A question, have you encountered many examples of viviparous seed? I ask because I had a few Zamaldelica plants I seeded with an early maturing Deep Chunk and a few, like one or two, appeared to sprout during the open air drying I gave them after harvest. I've never seen it in cannabis before and was wondering if some of the equatorial strains in Zamaldelica could have contributed? I could be completely mistaken of course...

02-09-2015, 10:42 AM	#1
Chimera Genetic Resource Management Join Date: May 2006 Location: In vitro Posts: 2,383	My seed maturity philosophy In nature cannabis mothers give their life to bring about the future generations, holding on to the seeds until they succumb to the cold or drought. We treat our ladies as if they were pregnant mothers, and allow them a full diet of nutrients so they can nurture the delicate embryos forming within. The seeds sit on the vine well past sprout-able maturity until they rattle in their pods, and only once the plant enters senescence are they harvested and allowed to dry slowly until the flowers reach about 10% moisture content where they are left for a couple of weeks most often. The buds are then flash dried in a low humidity, low temperature room until the flowers are crisp and fall apart easily in a pollinator type device where we collect any remaining medicine. The flowers break apart with the gentle tumbling action and give up the majority of the seed, which is then collected and separated from the chaff with a sieve to remove the stems and then gentle winnowing process. We then further air dry the seeds until they reach about 10% moisture content, and at this point the seed is placed in a conditioned environment @ 4 degree Celsius, where they wait a final cleaning and sorting. Seeds are only packaged before shipping to maintain the most consistent treatment amongst the family, and preserve the viability for as long as possible. With this treatment seeds can maintain an excellent germination for well over a decade, and still maintain a decent germination potential up to 20 years if the uniform environment can be maintained. Our philosophy is to try and replicate the process that occurs in nature, but minimize any negative effects of an inconsistent environment that might happen due to seasonal fluctuations and changes in humidity and temperature.. We spare no expense to preserve your seeds with dutiful care and attention, because they are our greatest pleasure and we wish for them to bring you every bit of enjoyment that they bring to us. -Chimera __________________ __________________ More Agriculture Less Agro-Culture
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02-09-2015, 11:09 AM	#2
Mad Lab Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: California Posts: 580	very mellifluous. __________________ No two gardens are the same. No two days are the same in one garden. -Hugh Johnson ~ Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap but by the seeds you plant. -Robert Louis Stevenson "EM1 & EM5 - Effective Micro-Organism Organic Fungicides and Pesticide Thread" "HPA Aeroponics for Commercial Production Thread"
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02-09-2015, 06:41 PM	#3
Krausen Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 159	Chi - Any insights on how a homegrower should store your seeds? 4*C at what RH? I was thinking a small cooler in the back of a fridge. I've got a growing collection of seeds that i intend to keep for quite some time.
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02-09-2015, 06:56 PM	#4
dank.frank ef.yu.se.ka.e.em Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: hiding in plain sight Posts: 10,033	Nice post, Chimera. Appreciate the insight. dank.Frank __________________ https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=258168 Bunch of fake ass neo-capitalists masquerading as counter culture cannabis enthusiasts with their thinly veiled self-justifications catering to the morally ambiguous for the sake of the ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR
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02-09-2015, 07:24 PM	#5
Sunfire Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,716	I've always read as cold and dry as possible. After getting them completely dry with a dehumidifier, I pack them in jars with plenty of color changing desiccant and then put the jars in the freezer. I think stable is the most important part. The temp is a fridge changes often if you re using that fridge. A self defrosting freezer is no good as well. If you are super serious you can get a small little chest freezer off craigslist just for your little babes.
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02-09-2015, 07:34 PM	#6
trichrider THEORETICAL Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: between CB1 and the singularity. Posts: 7,046	well maintained in the salad crisper which doesn't fluctuate when opening the door... comforting to know you take such pride in your work. big ups brother! so many seeds, so little time... __________________ "I'm not always a dick...but when I am, I drink cheap beer".
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02-09-2015, 09:22 PM	#7
El Gato Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: N.E. US Posts: 199	I keep mine in the freezer, in the original packs buried in rice in mason jars and have zero issues germing seeds as far back as 94. If I had older I wouldn't expect an issue with them either. Last edited by El Gato; 02-12-2015 at 02:13 AM..
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02-12-2015, 12:23 AM	#8
sourpuss Rainman Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,762	Hmm was wondering if the self thawing freezer was a bad idea... something about making the seed fragile when froze doesnt appeal to me... think im gonna move em to the crisper... __________________
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02-12-2015, 03:38 AM	#9
Sunfire Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,716	So the auto defrost freezer is bad because of the temperature fluctuations experienced during the thawing process. All frozen seeds will be more fragile, especially at -20 or -30F. Just be careful with them. If you plan on getting into the containers often. Make a bunch of little paper sachets and put ten or so seeds in each one so you don't disturb all of them to pull a few out.
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02-12-2015, 03:46 AM	#10
soopy Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 394	Excellent info Chimera, thank you. A question, have you encountered many examples of viviparous seed? I ask because I had a few Zamaldelica plants I seeded with an early maturing Deep Chunk and a few, like one or two, appeared to sprout during the open air drying I gave them after harvest. I've never seen it in cannabis before and was wondering if some of the equatorial strains in Zamaldelica could have contributed? I could be completely mistaken of course...
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