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dankedout · 06-20-2006, 07:39 AM

This is proally a dumb question but I need a answer. Since this will be my first grow I want to try to keep it as simple as possible so I don't mess anything up. Does anyone know a good pre mixed soil I can get that will allow me to not have to use too many or any ferts during the grow ?

Closet Funk · 06-20-2006, 07:48 AM

Fox Farms Ocean Mix. It has everything you need to grow. It's alittle expensive though.

06-20-2006, 07:48 AM

Hi dankedout,
First of all, there is no such thing as a stupid question...only stupid answers. Dont be afraid to ask, the sensible folks here at icmag will lead you in the right direction.

I have had good success with fox farms ocean blend soil. Its got everything you need to get started. BUT....it will not feed the plant full term. You will need to start feeding them when they are 30-45 days old. Organic is my preferance in nutes more forgiving.
But if use chemicals...follow the instructions on the box and you cant go wrong.

hope this helps,
Seed

Trancerman · 06-20-2006, 07:50 AM

miracle gro potting soil ; add a little bit more perlite.

easy as it gets

dankedout · 06-20-2006, 11:38 AM

have you guys tried the moonshine mix thats been posted on here? It seems pretty easy to mix and it says you dont need to feed it for the whole cycle. Anyone tried this ?

Suby · 06-21-2006, 10:36 PM

I've never used anything straight out of the bag that kept my girls well fed troughout the grow, MJ is a high fert plant so it's only normal to have to add to it.

Ocean Forest is a good strat but you'll need some sort of P source and K towards the middle of flowering you can bet on that.

Try an all in one fert like PBPro veg and soil in a Promix HP with 30% added perlite, it will be cheaper the the FF Ocean Forest wich will need ferts at some point anyhow.

I dislike most MiracleGrow products, especially ones with time release ferts that can burn seedlings unless your aware of their existence.

Sub's

Skunkenstein · 06-22-2006, 12:01 PM

I totally agree with SUBY,there is no Magic bullet that will sustain a plant through the wholegrow. The needs change drastically.If a person can veg. the plant to a pre-determined heigth, then transplant into a large container with a good mix of blooming ammendments, and add good liquid ferts about midway through bloom..that the way to go.

Hunt4Hazez · 06-26-2006, 11:08 AM

where can u get ocean forest soil in the States?

06-27-2006, 03:02 PM

My suggestion would be to stick with a soil-less (coco , peat , etc) and water in your nutes . You will have WAY more control of what your feeding 'em . And FF is very "hot" on seedlings and clones .

**BurnOne** · 06-29-2006, 06:30 PM

5 parts Canadian Spaghnam Peat or Coir or Pro-Moss
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost
Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.

06-20-2006, 07:39 AM	#1
dankedout Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 199	newb soil question This is proally a dumb question but I need a answer. Since this will be my first grow I want to try to keep it as simple as possible so I don't mess anything up. Does anyone know a good pre mixed soil I can get that will allow me to not have to use too many or any ferts during the grow ?
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06-20-2006, 07:48 AM	#2
Closet Funk CeRtIfIeD OrGaNiC! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The Lake Posts: 1,828	Fox Farms Ocean Mix. It has everything you need to grow. It's alittle expensive though. __________________ "Smoke Good, Eat Good, Live Good" Certified Organic!
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06-20-2006, 07:48 AM	#3
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Hi dankedout, First of all, there is no such thing as a stupid question...only stupid answers. Dont be afraid to ask, the sensible folks here at icmag will lead you in the right direction. I have had good success with fox farms ocean blend soil. Its got everything you need to get started. BUT....it will not feed the plant full term. You will need to start feeding them when they are 30-45 days old. Organic is my preferance in nutes more forgiving. But if use chemicals...follow the instructions on the box and you cant go wrong. hope this helps, Seed
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06-20-2006, 07:50 AM	#4
Trancerman M I N D Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Falling through the Infinite Posts: 198	miracle gro potting soil ; add a little bit more perlite. easy as it gets
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06-20-2006, 11:38 AM	#5
dankedout Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 199	have you guys tried the moonshine mix thats been posted on here? It seems pretty easy to mix and it says you dont need to feed it for the whole cycle. Anyone tried this ?
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06-21-2006, 10:36 PM	#6
Suby AWD Aficianado Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the healing arms of planet love. Posts: 2,435	I've never used anything straight out of the bag that kept my girls well fed troughout the grow, MJ is a high fert plant so it's only normal to have to add to it. Ocean Forest is a good strat but you'll need some sort of P source and K towards the middle of flowering you can bet on that. Try an all in one fert like PBPro veg and soil in a Promix HP with 30% added perlite, it will be cheaper the the FF Ocean Forest wich will need ferts at some point anyhow. I dislike most MiracleGrow products, especially ones with time release ferts that can burn seedlings unless your aware of their existence. Sub's __________________ Organic Fanatic Collective Suby's Kitchen The "Beer" Fridge ~Pimp Your Organic Fertilizer~
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06-22-2006, 12:01 PM	#7
Skunkenstein Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pacific N.W. Posts: 240	I totally agree with SUBY,there is no Magic bullet that will sustain a plant through the wholegrow. The needs change drastically.If a person can veg. the plant to a pre-determined heigth, then transplant into a large container with a good mix of blooming ammendments, and add good liquid ferts about midway through bloom..that the way to go.
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06-26-2006, 11:08 AM	#8
Hunt4Hazez Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: amsterdamned Posts: 271	where can u get ocean forest soil in the States?
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06-27-2006, 03:02 PM	#9
guest3854 Guest Posts: n/a	My suggestion would be to stick with a soil-less (coco , peat , etc) and water in your nutes . You will have WAY more control of what your feeding 'em . And FF is very "hot" on seedlings and clones .
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06-29-2006, 06:30 PM	#10
BurnOne No damn given. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 2,714	5 parts Canadian Spaghnam Peat or Coir or Pro-Moss 3 parts perlite 2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost Powdered dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
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