[BigNoise]

Any predictions on what commercial stuff will level out at once it gets rolling?

[luxcultivars]

The latest trend I'm seeing in PDX clubs is increased use of tiered pricing. Middies and outdoor are available in some clubs for ~$160. Top shelf seems to be just a bit more expensive this year at ~$220-$260.

Really interested to see what will happen to prices July 1st when rec cannabis becomes legal but nobody can buy it anywhere legally.

Also curious why clubs are currently selling clones at only $15 when clone producers get taxed $5 a plant from the getgo when selling them wholesale. So clones go for $7.50 wholesale, $5 gets taxed immediately, and then the cloner producer has to pay taxes on that remaining $2.50? That's a joke.

With a profit margin that slim the only ones who will be able to make any headway in the clone biz will be big-box growers. Is that really what we want? Small-time collectors and farmers like myself will be totally screwed if the retail clone price doesn't come up to $20. For a plant that produces over a grand in product $20 dollars seems pretty damned reasonable to me.

[BigNoise]

Originally Posted by luxcultivars

Really interested to see what will happen to prices July 1st when rec cannabis becomes legal but nobody can buy it anywhere legally.

How many people homebrew beer vs drink it, or grow a garden vs eat vegetables? I would imagine the percentage of growers vs smokers will be similar.

[ApolloAK]

What? It's easy to make money on clones, I'm down in Cali and the place I sell to pays me $5 all day anytime I drop clones off. He sells me for $10. The clone biz is one part of the industry that you need to be running hydro to do, the plants just recover and grow out so much faster.

[luxcultivars]

Originally Posted by ApolloAK

What? It's easy to make money on clones, I'm down in Cali and the place I sell to pays me $5 all day anytime I drop clones off. He sells me for $10. The clone biz is one part of the industry that you need to be running hydro to do, the plants just recover and grow out so much faster.

I guess you aren't reading what I'm saying. If I sold $5 clones to clubs I'd have to pay a $5 tax at the transfer. It's Oregon state law. That would be a net profit of $0. I'd have to sell clones for $10 to make $5, and then I'd have to pay taxes on that to the state and feds. And that doesn't include expenses for production.

I'd take the $10... but clubs won't pay that because they sell for $15.

[woolybear]

Originally Posted by luxcultivars

I guess you aren't reading what I'm saying. If I sold $5 clones to clubs I'd have to pay a $5 tax at the transfer. It's Oregon state law. That would be a net profit of $0. I'd have to sell clones for $10 to make $5, and then I'd have to pay taxes on that to the state and feds. And that doesn't include expenses for production.

I'd take the $10... but clubs won't pay that because they sell for $15.

this does not sound like a formula for success

[Bad Habits]

Well I'm glad to see this thread gaining some momentum!

Any others care to share what kinda prices they're fetching for their products???

ALSO. With tax filing deadline about a month away - what is everyone doing?

One of my friends had emerge law group set up his LLC for about $1000 (think he said something about it was $250/hour and something like 4 hours for them to do the appropriate one for a mmj bizz) and then used one of their accountants to file.

Can anyone else shed some insight? $1000 just to set up the LLC alone seems insanely expensive to me.

Also, if people don't file, what might happen? Is the IRS going to check in on all the dispos vendor files? Also somewhat confused considering paying taxes in itself is admitting your committing a felony under federal law, no?

[luxcultivars]

Originally Posted by Bad Habits

Also, if people don't file, what might happen? Is the IRS going to check in on all the dispos vendor files? Also somewhat confused considering paying taxes in itself is admitting your committing a felony under federal law, no?

What most people are doing for now is putting their income into the 'other income' category on their federal tax forms. No need to specify. I think we will see a change in federal policy fairly soon; maybe even this year. Of course, the under-the-table income is insane right now and many are just winging it until the dust settles.

I don't see how they could possibly have the manpower to check disp files and look into related transactions. The government is behind in a big way as far as that goes.

Bad Habits,

You stuff looks well grown. Are you still getting 2.2/ at the same clubs?

I've done some business with clubs before but it ended up being a pain in the ass. Low ballers all over the place. Club sky high for example, steer clear of them.

What I'm curious about is that places offering elites (GG#4, rarer cookies cuts, etc.) are charging 12/g and dont offer ounces, so what is the price per lb to the vendor for those?

[Bradley_Danks]

There seems to be a lot of vendors on craigslist now days. They have the most affordable prices. Never used it myself but some folks do and seem to be making good money under the table. They sell their chronic indoor for 20-25$ an eighth. 100-150$ an ounce. Is that legal or what? Cops don't seem to be doing a thing if its illegal...

Lots of scammers selling people male clones disguised as females....lol....especially dogwalker og clones...