[DJM]

Originally Posted by mowood3479

@djm
Sweet set up, obviously dialed...
i had a question for u... If u care to oblige me with ur thoughts it'd be much appreciated.

I've noticed in my rooms that when I set canopy temps in mid 80s the yields go up but the quality seems to suffer a bit..
The rh of my rooms hasn't ever been as high as u run urs tho (nor as steady)

So, I was wondering... Do u notice a difference in quality at higher temps 85+... Or are u not seeing a drop in quality with the higher rh that u run in flower?

I hope this question isn't taken the wrong way, Im in no way questioning the quality of ur flowers, just wondering ur thoughts and if u had seen any of the same anectdotal evidence I have with mid 80s canopy temps and lower rh >55%...
i would imagine u came to ur environmental set points thru trial and error... So I was hoping u had some thoughts on this because I've gone back to running mid 70s canopy temps in an attempt to improve quality.. Just not seeing the yield I had at higher temps..
I hadn't considered the rh factor tho.. Perhaps bumping up the rh is needed to run the higher temps n still get the fire...
Thoughts? Always excited to pick the brain of a truly dialed in grower.. I know ur rooms didn't fall together by accident. Much respect.
Mo

thanks man...you are absolutely correct...thing with high temps and vpd in general, is you need to run a certain rh to be able to run a certain temp..if not quality will suffer...if i tried to run 84 with 50% rh, it would suffer..if i tried to run 75 with 70% it would also suffer..temps need to be in proper relation to rh or it will do more harm than good..if its hot and dry , the environment will suck moisture from the plants and lead to a loss in quality...if ran correctly, high temps in relation to rh will actually boost quality as well as yield..ive put many people onto high temps and rh and they have all noticed the same

[DJM]

Originally Posted by Unclecrash

Im not saying what is write or wrong as Im too green, but if they can grow in tropical enviroments like Hawaii and Im sure the humidity quite high over there then why cant we replicate it in our rooms like DJM is doing. Maybe the persons getting bud rot has some other parameter out of wack that is allowing it to get mold's like possibly a weak root system or some other factors causing the problem. Or a factor of how much air is being put through the room, DJM seems to have it dialed in. Sorry Waxy didnt mean to quote you I thought I was quoting DJM's post that you quoted.

you are correct..its all about how its utilized

[DJM]

Originally Posted by Unclecrash

Mowood I have heard the same thing from my Bro. A guy he know's is getting 2lb a plant or a bit more, but his quality is not up there with my bro's but that aint to say that DJM's isnt the bomb or the next guy's.

you can get large plants like that and still maintain quality..but for large plants you NEED high rh..as they require more moisture to stay hydrated than a small plant...i use to run 1 plant per light for many years and usually got 2 pounds or more...quality is the same as if i ran 16 per light

here is a pic of an old grow running 1 per light...plant on the left did 2.25 pounds plant on the right did 2.5...hoods are 4 feet wide as a reference point...strain is chem 4

[DJM]

Originally Posted by Unclecrash

I hadn't considered the rh factor tho.. Perhaps bumping up the rh is needed to run the higher temps n still get the fire...

I could see where the more moisture could be it, so the high temps dont suck the life out of the bud. Could and probably go hand in hand. But like I said Im also green behind the ears.

you are absolutely correct..cant run high temps without high rh or plants will suffer..just like you cant run low temps with high rh, which most do and that's why high rh has a bad rep

[DJM]

Originally Posted by homebrew420

Not really. one may see a slow down for a day or so with multiple feeding, however if environment is good and plant is healthy they adapt and take off as well.

DJM, you are WASTING SOOOOO much space with only 10 per tray. What fucking joker you are, WTF? hahaha

Keep up the great work in here my man

Peace

in a perlite mix or small pot, id agree..they will adapt and grow but the root system will not be on par with a wet dry cycle, unless its cut with perlite or something else..ive gave it a try and didn't like it so now im cutting with perlite to start on a drip from the jump in early veg

i know, wasting a ton of space..total rookie move..i have no idea what im doing

thanks boss

[DJM]

Originally Posted by homebrew420

DJM do you burn Sulphur? we love that junk, let those RH hit the 70s! Peace

nah never needed to...only had pm once..cleaned room top to bottom, treated all plants and ive never seen it again..it works great, but boy does it reek..i just make sure plants are clean top to bottom as is the room before flip..i also treated all the bushes in my yard so pm cant find its way back inside

[DJM]

yield and quality are not mutually exclusive..some commercial flowers, all from my own selections from seed

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some more commercial flowers

[Yes4Prop215]

nice thread and those flowers speak for themselves. also recognized your grow from IG, cool to see all the details in here, feel the same way about IG vs IC. I'm in a hot dry environment so can't really do the same thing as you, but your method is similar to jackmayoffers new setup, root bound coco trees watered multiple times per day, with high rh and temps in first month of flower. but then he brings down the temps on them through harvest.

i did something similar, did the high temp high RH in first month of flower and had super crazy veg growth. but i still got many things to dial. thanks for sharing all your advice and tips.

[DJM]

Originally Posted by Yes4Prop215

nice thread and those flowers speak for themselves. also recognized your grow from IG, cool to see all the details in here, feel the same way about IG vs IC. I'm in a hot dry environment so can't really do the same thing as you, but your method is similar to jackmayoffers new setup, root bound coco trees watered multiple times per day, with high rh and temps in first month of flower. but then he brings down the temps on them through harvest.

i did something similar, did the high temp high RH in first month of flower and had super crazy veg growth. but i still got many things to dial. thanks for sharing all your advice and tips.

thanks for popping in prop. good to see ya around. been following youre outdoor season, very impressive..nice to see you gave it a try..once you dial in vpd, co2 and multifeeds in coco, its a game changer

jack is a good friend, he is one of the few growers that I always see eye to eye with, and one of the few that still inspire me..depending on the strain ill drop temps and rh 1, 2, or 3 weeks pre harvest..the more sativa blood, the later I drop it, more indica blood the sooner...this run I dropped it for the last 2 weeks..still experimenting with different times and levels..constantly tweaking my grows, cutting what doesn't work and implementing what does..always striving for perfection

jack flash, day 49