[high life 45]

Technology is happening!

3 pounds or even 4 is very attainable with gavitas. A friend just upgraded his 30k light room to 27k gavitas. He used to pull 60+ from his 30 hps lights, he just pulled 90 from 27 gavitas first round. All "A" quality strain was Jack H

SOG with gavitas and a boss de reflector it is very attainable. The boss reflector puts out close to a 6x6 footprint. Where as your standard 1k hps puts out a 4x4 footprint.
Its simply math at this point.

4x4=16 standard hps

6x6=36 gavita with boss de

16x2=32

36>32

So one gavita has the potential to cover more than 2x the square footage of a standard hps reflector.

We all know that 2 pounds per a 4x4 with a standard hps is happening and believable. So if you can get more than 2x the coverage why not 2x the yield?

[mendo-local]

Originally Posted by VerdantGreen

many people dont think that small scale growers are entitled to opinions on big lights

1.36 grams per watt is what we're talking about, thats a high yield, but i have achieved that and above on many occasions with horizontal modular scrogs in organic soil, you just need good soil and to make sure there are no gaps in the canopy.

ive even managed 1.2 gpw with pre-98 bubba kush, a cut many people drop for its low yeilds. get to know your strains/cuts and you will get the best out of them if you are prepared to make sure that no light is wasted.

VG

Thats funny you mention pre 98. Of all the plants I've grown she was the heaviest at 2.5 per light

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

sureshot66 just pulled 3 #s per light on 2 horizontal flood tables with 3 d.e.1ks. 3 lights 9#s of dried trimmed weighed gg#4. hes not vert hes not a long vegger and he doesnt use pgrs.

heres the kicker. 2 weeks veg. 20 clones per light. 70 days.

it sounds like it was killer too.

he doesnt bullshit. hes got a nice clean dialed environment and it was in beds of coco on topfeed hydro dtw. he has some fancy complex feeding program. it is documented in a killer thread he did. its in the coco growing section.

[Snype]

Originally Posted by xxxstr8edgexxx

sureshot66 just pulled 3 #s per light on 2 horizontal flood tables with 3 d.e.1ks. 3 lights 9#s of dried trimmed weighed gg#4. hes not vert hes not a long vegger and he doesnt use pgrs.

heres the kicker. 2 weeks veg. 20 clones per light. 70 days.

it sounds like it was killer too.

he doesnt bullshit. hes got a nice clean dialed environment and it was in beds of coco on topfeed hydro dtw. he has some fancy complex feeding program. it is documented in a killer thread he did. its in the coco growing section.

OMFG! Good looks on that link! About to design a grow similar to his now! Gotta love this site! So much great information!

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

Originally Posted by Snype

OMFG! Good looks on that link! About to design a grow similar to his now! Gotta love this site! So much great information!

i built my hydro system pretty much exactly like his with a few lil bells and whistles of my own. set it and forget it. the plants love it and its soooo easy to run.

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

https://instagram.com/p/wQGv9Om7KM/?modal=true
i bet these guys aint too far from 3#s per k

[SnowCreature]

Alien dog will get you close enough

[DunHav`nFun]

Wow guys , I guess the crowd round here`s gotten so young that nobody searches archives and old threads anymore for reference from the old heads....well....

Flowerfarmer bringin up Soquick touches on the gpw`s , but go look up the old Krusty bucket threads where EVERY pic amounts to 3+ lb plants with 33.5 lbs outta a 10 KW room was his best in a warehouse setting......now...

Krusty usedta veg to "tits high"/round 3' outta the containers that took less than a month veg btw , and then pulled the trigger with top colas brushing the ceilings by end of stretch every run using his perfect Sat/Ind hybrid that made 3 liter coke bottle sized laterals and tops , and yeah...

Some called it beasters back then , but the shit sold like hot cakes so it`s all subjective at best....and then there`s another that comes to mind from recent times here....

Don Juan Matuus now a days that runs perpetual 3 lb plants all under their very own 1KW fixture , but again as has been mentioned , a fair amount of vegtime for the more indica hybrids most folks run these days....and lastly just to piss all the naysayers and close-minded folks off.....

For right at 20 yrs since Cali went wild wild west legal beagle , My guys that`ve been runnin a clone factory for all the major clubs up and down the west coast (based right down the road from you Krunch btw) , pull 4 lbs per light EVERY run in 4x4 flood tables usin pick of the litter fully rooted cuts with absolutely NO vegtime under 1KW`s and parabolics on a perpetual setup harveyin 4 lbs a week with only 10 lights......so folks.....

256-1/4 oz+/- colas with little to no trim needed and only have ta Harvey 1 table and replant 1 table a week still gives em 208 lbs per yr consistently in laboratory conditions , again with only 10 lights....that said....

Never say never cuz there`s many ways ta skin a mule , but without runnin crazy ass plant numbers OR crazy ass vegtimes AND employing perpetual tactics , the conventional race for more dry material per light in any type timely manner plainly lies with the new double ended fixtures that can properly cover more of a sq ftg footprint IF properly maintained canopy AND environment along with adequate watts per sq ft all fall into place for dialage.....

DJM`s perpetual setup allows him to pull 3-4 plants per month once all ducks are in a row , so rooting , pre-veg , and increased veg times are all relative if the final result still gives you 9-12+ units EVERY month but with only 3-4 plants , so it`s all in how you play the game right guys ?.......anything`s possible.....period....

Peace....DHF.........

[DooDahMan]

Originally Posted by DunHav`nFun

old heads

Great point you got, the voters who say it can be done are certainly older on average than the ones who say it's impossible.

Poor growers are probably frustrated about that and of course they'd still like to think they're doing ok.
(I had many simular discussions on poker forums with losing players that insist it is luck and will not accept it is skill)

The sad truth is over 90% of the grows on this forum are poor and because of that now everybody thinks that's normal.
You can't even say anything about it, because that is considered not nice and the messenger will be shot.
So we see pictures that are too embarrasing to post and everybody will go "wow looking great".

I can imagine all the better growers leaving this place, especially if nobody listens to them anyway.

[smurfin'herb]

Throw a single 1000watt up in a bedroom on the ceiling, and fill the room with plants, mission accomplished! But whats the quality going to be like?
With the right genetics , in Hydroponics, co2, sealed room, perfect environment and feed schedule, extended veg time, proper pruning and spacing, decreased watts/sq.ft., light movers, vertical setup, ect, ect, etc. It would be relatively easy to get 3lbs per 1000 watts. If your an experienced grower, you can get 3 or more pounds from 1000watts of light if you wanted to in a normal setup. Thing is, growing like this its not very efficient in the long term because of the the veg time that is usually associated with it.

I have found a satisfying medium between quantity and quality. 37.5 watts/sq.ft. is right around the sweet spot. Thats pretty much a 4x4 area with a 600watt over it. Your going to get better chance at yield with 5x600's vs 3x1000's. Same amount of wattage, but more spread out. If your doing monster plants, 600's may not be the way to go.

Years back i took my best yielder, and I did 6 600's with 24 plants in 5gal coco smart pots. I got 10.3lbs without even trying. Im going to see if i can replicate it again and do better. It worked out to 1.71lbs per 600watt light.
For a comparison-8.58lbs from 5x600's (3000 watts), vs. 9.00lbs from 3x1000's(3000watts). Pretty damn close to the equivalent of 3lbs per 1000watts. Thats not too bad considering it wasnt even a sealed room, and no c02 added...

To answer the op's question. 3lbs from 1000watts is more than possible.