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minds_I · 06-11-2006, 10:58 AM

Hello all,

Discouraging news regarding my new fertilizer find.

It would seem that dry bat shit is not a good thing to breath in. I am getting a mask.

It causes hystoplasmosis.

Phvqve!!! And my plants seem to love the teas.

minds_I

Closet Funk · 06-11-2006, 08:40 PM

Most organic amendments aren't good to breath. It's a good idea to mix your soil outside or somewhere where there is ventilation. If I have to mix my soil indoors I make sure I do by an open window or in the bathroom with the vent fan on. Even wearing a mask or something to cover your mouth is good too.

jaykush · 06-11-2006, 10:33 PM

yea dont breath in bone or blood meal either, i couldnt see that being a good thing.

Frend · 06-12-2006, 10:56 AM

also vermiculite

bartender187 · 06-12-2006, 11:03 AM

or perlite... white clouds of death

Closet Funk · 06-13-2006, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bartender187

or perlite... white clouds of death

Yea Perlite is rough. The first time I used I breathed it in. I felt sick all day. It's not good for you I can guarentee that.

jaykush · 06-13-2006, 03:38 AM

!!! were going to die of mixing organic soil before the weed kills us :p

I.M. Boggled · 06-13-2006, 04:05 AM

Their is, however, one serious human illness connected with guano.

Histoplasmosis,
caused by the fungus Histoplasm capsulatum, produces symptoms similar to influenza in mild cases, or pneumonia when severe.

In persons with compromised immune systems, histoplasmosis can produce complications leading to death.
Its symptoms vary greatly, but the disease primarily affects the lungs. Occasionally, other organs are affected—this form of the disease is called disseminated histoplasmosis, and it can be fatal if untreated.

Accumulations of both bird and bat guano can contain the Histoplasm spores, as can manure from old poultry houses.

The problems are most severe in piles that have aged for two or more years, as the fungus has additional time to proliferate and produce spores.

In a fresh state, bat guano is more hazardous than bird guano because infected bats can "shed" the organism and rapidly inoculate the manure.

It appears that those who spend time in caves, and those who harvest and package guano, are at the greatest risk of infection.

Cases of infection through later handling are apparently not common, though if they have occurred, they may well have been misdiagnosed as influenza or a similar ailment.

Infections come about when dust and other aerosols bearing the fungal spores are inhaled.

Therefore respirators and masks are recommended when handling guanos.

Also, clothing should be removed carefully afterwards to avoid inhaling accumulated dusts. .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histoplasmosis

At the present time, the NOP regulations treat guano as raw, uncomposted manure.
It is therefore subject to the same 90- and 120-day application restrictions (refers to organic edible produce).
It is relatively safe but rather expensive for organic production.
It's use is best justified on high-value crops.

Bat Guano Thread with "Histoplasmosis" references...
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=15272

I.M. Boggled · 06-13-2006, 04:09 AM

Background:
Histoplasma capsulatum is a dimorphic fungus that remains in a mycelial form at ambient temperatures and grows as yeast at body temperature in mammals.
Although the fungus can be found in temperate climates throughout the world, it is endemic to the Ohio, Missouri, and Mississippi River valleys in the United States. Internationally, the fungus is predominantly found in river valleys between latitudes 45° north and 30° south in North and Central America.

The soil in endemic areas provides an acidic damp environment with high organic content that is good for mycelial growth

Highly infectious soil is found near areas inhabited by bats and birds.
Birds cannot be infected by the fungus and do not transmit the disease; however, bird excretions contaminate the soil, thereby enriching the growth medium for the mycelium.
In contrast, bats can become infected, and they transmit the fungus through droppings.
Contaminated soil can be potentially infectious for years.

Most individuals who are infected are asymptomatic.
Those who develop clinical manifestations are usually immunocompromised or are exposed to a high quantity of inoculum.
...
https://www.emedicine.com/MED/topic1021.htm

Verite · 06-13-2006, 04:38 AM

Whoda thought that breathing in poo dust would be bad?

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minds_I The Emperor is not only naked but batshit crazy. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Norcal USA Posts: 5,269	Bat guano and respiratory desease. Hello all, Discouraging news regarding my new fertilizer find. It would seem that dry bat shit is not a good thing to breath in. I am getting a mask. It causes hystoplasmosis. Phvqve!!! And my plants seem to love the teas. minds_I __________________ His contempt for objective truth is the rejection of democratic accountability, an implicit demand that his supporters place undying faith in him. Because the only measure of truth he accepts is what he claims at any given moment, the power his supporters vest in him is unlimited. Sound familiar? If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures. In the United States, under our Constitution, a free press is a check on politicians of all parties. If we are to demand that other countries respect the tradition of a free press we must also practice that here at home. Let the people know the facts, and the country will be safe. Last edited by minds_I; 06-12-2006 at 12:25 PM..
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Closet Funk CeRtIfIeD OrGaNiC! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The Lake Posts: 1,828	Most organic amendments aren't good to breath. It's a good idea to mix your soil outside or somewhere where there is ventilation. If I have to mix my soil indoors I make sure I do by an open window or in the bathroom with the vent fan on. Even wearing a mask or something to cover your mouth is good too. __________________ "Smoke Good, Eat Good, Live Good" Certified Organic!
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jaykush dirty black hands Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the old growth forest Posts: 4,990	yea dont breath in bone or blood meal either, i couldnt see that being a good thing. __________________ “Everything is written in the book of nature. This book is always open.” sepp holzer
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06-13-2006, 03:38 AM	#7
jaykush dirty black hands Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the old growth forest Posts: 4,990	!!! were going to die of mixing organic soil before the weed kills us :p __________________ “Everything is written in the book of nature. This book is always open.” sepp holzer
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06-12-2006, 10:56 AM	#4
Frend Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 66	also vermiculite
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06-13-2006, 04:05 AM	#8
I.M. Boggled Certified Bloomin' Idiot Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,741	Their is, however, one serious human illness connected with guano. Histoplasmosis, caused by the fungus Histoplasm capsulatum, produces symptoms similar to influenza in mild cases, or pneumonia when severe. In persons with compromised immune systems, histoplasmosis can produce complications leading to death. Its symptoms vary greatly, but the disease primarily affects the lungs. Occasionally, other organs are affected—this form of the disease is called disseminated histoplasmosis, and it can be fatal if untreated. Accumulations of both bird and bat guano can contain the Histoplasm spores, as can manure from old poultry houses. The problems are most severe in piles that have aged for two or more years, as the fungus has additional time to proliferate and produce spores. In a fresh state, bat guano is more hazardous than bird guano because infected bats can "shed" the organism and rapidly inoculate the manure. It appears that those who spend time in caves, and those who harvest and package guano, are at the greatest risk of infection. Cases of infection through later handling are apparently not common, though if they have occurred, they may well have been misdiagnosed as influenza or a similar ailment. Infections come about when dust and other aerosols bearing the fungal spores are inhaled. Therefore respirators and masks are recommended when handling guanos. Also, clothing should be removed carefully afterwards to avoid inhaling accumulated dusts. . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histoplasmosis At the present time, the NOP regulations treat guano as raw, uncomposted manure. It is therefore subject to the same 90- and 120-day application restrictions (refers to organic edible produce). It is relatively safe but rather expensive for organic production. It's use is best justified on high-value crops. Bat Guano Thread with "Histoplasmosis" references... https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=15272 __________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > ICMAG OFFICIAL ~DIY~ LINK-O-RAMA https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=40637 A Library of Links https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=97792 How to replicate cannabis plants: ...various successful "cloning"/"cloner" techniques described w/ original posts linked https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=169382 A Complete Guide to Topping, Training and Pruning https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=115377 MEDICAL MARIJUANA SCIENTIFIC STUDIES REFERENCE GUIDE~2012~ https://www.letfreedomgrow.com/cmu/Gr...istJan2012.pdf Sharing Is Caring. IMB Last edited by I.M. Boggled; 06-13-2006 at 05:08 AM..
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06-13-2006, 04:09 AM	#9
I.M. Boggled Certified Bloomin' Idiot Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,741	Background: Histoplasma capsulatum is a dimorphic fungus that remains in a mycelial form at ambient temperatures and grows as yeast at body temperature in mammals. Although the fungus can be found in temperate climates throughout the world, it is endemic to the Ohio, Missouri, and Mississippi River valleys in the United States. Internationally, the fungus is predominantly found in river valleys between latitudes 45° north and 30° south in North and Central America. The soil in endemic areas provides an acidic damp environment with high organic content that is good for mycelial growth Highly infectious soil is found near areas inhabited by bats and birds. Birds cannot be infected by the fungus and do not transmit the disease; however, bird excretions contaminate the soil, thereby enriching the growth medium for the mycelium. In contrast, bats can become infected, and they transmit the fungus through droppings. Contaminated soil can be potentially infectious for years. Most individuals who are infected are asymptomatic. Those who develop clinical manifestations are usually immunocompromised or are exposed to a high quantity of inoculum. ... https://www.emedicine.com/MED/topic1021.htm __________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > ICMAG OFFICIAL ~DIY~ LINK-O-RAMA https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=40637 A Library of Links https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=97792 How to replicate cannabis plants: ...various successful "cloning"/"cloner" techniques described w/ original posts linked https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=169382 A Complete Guide to Topping, Training and Pruning https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=115377 MEDICAL MARIJUANA SCIENTIFIC STUDIES REFERENCE GUIDE~2012~ https://www.letfreedomgrow.com/cmu/Gr...istJan2012.pdf Sharing Is Caring. IMB Last edited by I.M. Boggled; 06-13-2006 at 04:23 AM..
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