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Old 10-27-2014, 01:33 AM #1
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Potential 4000 ft2 Legal Grow -- Help Needed

Hi there, I'm an old time icmag'r. I hung up the farming shears to be a dad and go legit. Now it's a few years later, and I've been approached by someone looking for an investment in the Colorado legal cannabis industry. They want to do only high end. Best of the best. I have had great success in the past with organics and top shelf herb, but only on a scale of a couple thousand watt lights. This is going to be more like 35 thousand watts. I need to come up with some figures, though. So please help me out. What are some conservative estimates for yield per square foot, how many square feet can a 1000 watt cover, how many plants, how much per plant? My experience was about ten plants under a 1000w,and about two ounces per plant. Was thinking one 1000w covered 100 ft2. 20 oz for every 100 ft2 sound about right? Let's not get lost in the weeds with the obvious stuff--of course sativas and Indicas will bloom and produce differently. I need a good solid number to convince a guy to put a few hundred grand into a khaleel-run farm. I can't say well it depends on this and that and this. I need a solid number to run projections. That kind of thing. Thanks for your help!




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you have got some homework to do bro. The questions you are asking are the kinds of things that come from experience and YOU doing your due diligence. If somebody was going to invest that kind of loot in me you better believe that I'd be working a lot harder than asking IC mag members to hand feed me basic questions like "how many plants can I fit under one light"

Maybe that's why you are getting the kind of response you are getting....nada.

Best of luck to you bro...you've got some work cut out for you.
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you have got some homework to do bro. The questions you are asking are the kinds of things that come from experience and YOU doing your due diligence. If somebody was going to invest that kind of loot in me you better believe that I'd be working a lot harder than asking IC mag members to hand feed me basic questions like "how many plants can I fit under one light"

Maybe that's why you are getting the kind of response you are getting....nada.

Best of luck to you bro...you've got some work cut out for you.
Sorry to have to agree with this, but it's true.

I have moved from 3k to 6k and trust me the jump is huge. There are issues that in a 1 or 2 light garden don't seem like shit, but as you start moving up, every step becomes that much more important to nail. If you don't have it nailed, you'll be hating life come harvest time.

Everything from environment, to bugs, to yields become issues. Then there's trim time, strain selection, and bottom line costs to take into account.

If it were me, I would be honest with your buddy and tell him to look elsewhere for someone to run the operation. I'm sure your skills will be useful to him, but not as lead operator without prior experience running 10k+.

In my experience most of these op's aren't putting out that Top Shelf AAA+ herb, so good luck to you and your buddy. You guys will need it.
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sup, khaleel old friend?! Dude, don't let these guys get you down, you totally have the skills and brains to do this. Remember, it's all scalable.

Sooo many growing styles, plant count under a light can be from 1 to 70+

figure a pound a light and up from there. each light covering a 4 by 4 section of table or whatever.
i'll post more later, gotta go to work now.
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you might need to totally re think your strategy

if i'd be in your shoes, and trust me , i dont want to be in it, i'd get a systems operator than can write software and wire up hardware to monitor and regulate the climate
arduino boards have been used to do this, on a smaller scale...and it does help one reap benefits soon

it can help you pinpoint trouble areas, and assure you have a stable environment.
from there on you shift attention to genetics: are you in oosession of an easy to handle much liked bulk strain ? then you could depend on a certain yield...

its most elementary to give yourself two harvests of starting up
it takes that long to be able to see if a location works or not ( trust me : for indoor gardening , a location is more than just your room. If theres a nearby welder, or plywoodmaker, your intake air would be polluted from the start..

so ,, i dont want to be in your shoes
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Hi there, I'm an old time icmag'r. I hung up the farming shears to be a dad and go legit. Now it's a few years later, and I've been approached by someone looking for an investment in the Colorado legal cannabis industry. They want to do only high end. Best of the best. I have had great success in the past with organics and top shelf herb, but only on a scale of a couple thousand watt lights. This is going to be more like 35 thousand watts. I need to come up with some figures, though. So please help me out. What are some conservative estimates for yield per square foot, how many square feet can a 1000 watt cover, how many plants, how much per plant? My experience was about ten plants under a 1000w,and about two ounces per plant. Was thinking one 1000w covered 100 ft2. 20 oz for every 100 ft2 sound about right? Let's not get lost in the weeds with the obvious stuff--of course sativas and Indicas will bloom and produce differently. I need a good solid number to convince a guy to put a few hundred grand into a khaleel-run farm. I can't say well it depends on this and that and this. I need a solid number to run projections. That kind of thing. Thanks for your help!


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all you have to do is get the people in one room and have a few old school there ... if they don't see profit then they are not worth growing for ...its about the plants dude not the cost effects ...lol

go with 9 plants in soil and 3-4 OZ pre 2 m safe numbers but do able ...

you said best of the best . qualities is a issue with them work with that ...

I think your wasting your time ...lol if your that good its your grow build it your self cut them out ...if you breed seed op for 3 seasons you will be there with out them ...

build on quality and demand ...

people come from 100 miles away to talk with me ... if your good show it , if they don't want to invest ., fuc* them ..they need your skills not the other way around ...
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Hi there, I'm an old time icmag'r. I hung up the farming shears to be a dad and go legit. Now it's a few years later, and I've been approached by someone looking for an investment in the Colorado legal cannabis industry. They want to do only high end. Best of the best. I have had great success in the past with organics and top shelf herb, but only on a scale of a couple thousand watt lights. This is going to be more like 35 thousand watts. I need to come up with some figures, though. So please help me out. What are some conservative estimates for yield per square foot, how many square feet can a 1000 watt cover, how many plants, how much per plant? My experience was about ten plants under a 1000w,and about two ounces per plant. Was thinking one 1000w covered 100 ft2. 20 oz for every 100 ft2 sound about right? Let's not get lost in the weeds with the obvious stuff--of course sativas and Indicas will bloom and produce differently. I need a good solid number to convince a guy to put a few hundred grand into a khaleel-run farm. I can't say well it depends on this and that and this. I need a solid number to run projections. That kind of thing. Thanks for your help!


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Grand daddy would be smacking you aright bout now . cut away those lower braches and feed the resin to those upper buds ,10-15% better resin production qualities ...

bag is 2 -3 gallons to small sorry its my passion ...lol
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