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Old 10-19-2014, 08:22 AM
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this is one of the worst effected ladies, bout four days back before the spray cycle started..... not happy.


also before spray cycle...


new seedlings, popped on the equinox, dna genetics crosses...
not showing symptoms.... yet.....
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unfortunately that damage does look like bm's. Before I even read ur writing when I looked at the pics I thought that.

Put a scope on them. the broad mites are small and can be seen on top of top leaves. Pluck a damaged top leaf and look closely at the veins and around the petiole. they like to hide and are hard to find. they are a fraction the size of red mites, and they are opaque almost transluscent. Theres a good chance that's what that is.

If u want any advice on how to manage the treatment let me know.

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Old 10-19-2014, 02:21 PM
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@ Miraculous Meds... thanks for stopping in... Yeah advice with how do deal with these lil buggers would be great...
I have had a close look, but havnt broken a leaf off an given it a real goin over... Ill do that shortly...
Besides your advice of dealing with them, do you think you could give me your opinion of how bad this damage is, and how long the girls should take to come back from this...? I feel they can make it...
Iv already completed a 3 spray cycle as of friday... Iv been using the spray to deal with other pest, seems to work, not at home right now so dont know the actual active chemical.... but its a basic pesticide from a nursery. I just think in the past few months my spray hasnt been diligent enough, and I havnt killed them off..... which is evident
once again brah thanks for your help...
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Post this in the infirmary. You will get more responses than you will here. You could also do it in the organics because you are running organic feed.
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@ Ichabod Crane... Thanks for stopping by again...
I did consider that, But I also noticed there was a sticky for bm's, with a lot of info, and a lot of debate... I read a bit, found some good pointers.... Just didnt see a point of starting another bm thread... new to this whole forum thing
Hopefully some knowledgable vertheads like you can chime in and point out things that can be improved on.... in all aspects...
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something psychedelic... lithops...
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behind screen shot with back screen fitted...


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@ Miraculous Meds... thanks for stopping in... Yeah advice with how do deal with these lil buggers would be great...
I have had a close look, but havnt broken a leaf off an given it a real goin over... Ill do that shortly...
Iv already completed a 3 spray cycle as of friday... Iv been using the spray to deal with other pest, seems to work, not at home right now so dont know the actual active chemical.... but its a basic pesticide from a nursery. I just think in the past few months my spray hasnt been diligent enough, and I havnt killed them off..... which is evident
once again brah thanks for your help...
On broad mite treatment. My background on it stems from having them for 6 months plus, devastating each harvest and almost getting me to quit . this was 2 to 3 years ago and haven't had them since, well, I just found them from some clones a friend gave me a month ago lol. I should have quarantined, oh well, another learning lesson. I must rreally like learning lessons in life cause I get them often.

So I read through the bm thread, got a scope out again, because I had already used a scope but didn't see them cause I didn't know what I was looking for and they are very small and hide. I haven't read the thread in the last year or two in any detail so I don't know if any new treatments or ideas have come to light.
But I did eradicate them with no problems till the obvious taking in of new clone stock, so the treatment is effective.

So after the long winded intro let me share the not so fun news about treatment. First I caution and suggest u read that thread at least as best u can since its a mile long lol. Then if u decide to use the treatment I know of to work u must take it very seriously. To the best of my knowledge the only way to get rid of them besides killing everything, cleaning, and starting over, is the heavy duty miticides that are rated to kill broads, and cyclamens, they are in the same category so no probs there.

Avid is the name brand of the miticide most effective, or abenectim is the chemical name. A back up or second spray of serious nature is forbid 4f. Of the two avid seems to be the better killer If u chose just one. I got both to switch up treatments. these miticides require full ppe suits, including cheap tyvek chem suits, goggles, paint/chem respirator, gloves, u get the idea now, but read the bottle of chems to follow all guidelines. Then u have to make a spray plan focused around the safety precautions outlined in the chemicals instructions, including not re entering the room for 12 to 24 hours. Not overspraying on things, not contaminating any area to endanger others and pets, ect.., turning off airflow not to blow spray where u don't want it. There are more details but before I go further, u need to identify them properly and decide if this is the route u want to go. I would say I would never spray flowering plants with these chems. Check into it and if its what u have them and its what u chose to do and have more q's u can message me and I will share more details.

I wrote a couple posts to lady lucky bean, she has documented her treatment with broads, it was a pretty good write up to get an idea of how to do it.

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Besides your advice of dealing with them, do you think you could give me your opinion of how bad this damage is, and how long the girls should take to come back from this...? I feel they can make it...
The damage is bad to the point that I wouldn't flower those with out treating them or it will be close to total failure. Now my guess on after treatment how soon they will be back of track is just a week or two, again just a guess though. They definitely can make it, just need those dam bugs to stop munching on them and most of our normal treatment just don't kill these guys.

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@ Ichabod Crane... Thanks for stopping by again...
I did consider that, But I also noticed there was a sticky for bm's, with a lot of info, and a lot of debate... I read a bit, found some good pointers.... Just didnt see a point of starting another bm thread... new to this whole forum thing
Hopefully some knowledgable vertheads like you can chime in and point out things that can be improved on.... in all aspects...
Thanks again ...
I am far from a expert in sick plants. That is part of why I said post in the infermary. That is what it is for. More people visit that thread than just the very guys. To me it looks like PH is off but like I said I am no expert. And I have never had broad mites that I know of. Could have wiped them out treating for spider mites and not have known.

So that said I am not the one to ask about your sick plants, sorry.
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Room looks really clean. It's gonna be hard to access once you get fully flowering but if you don't mind doing the extra work it looks like you'll have a great yield.
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