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Old 12-21-2014, 05:31 AM
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I have been making candies for a number of years. This is a recipe I have needed too. I have the same problem with the sugar melting the gelatin. I thought it was maybe the Jello so I tried Knox. That melted too, I did try the superfine, no better. Powdered sugar stays slimy.

Never used agar agar so am going to listen for how you do Chonski. I keep meaning to try as our coop is carrying it now. I do make "applets", "cotlets" & gum drops from my apples, apricots, grape juice and blackberries I pick. It really is different and much better.
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Old 12-26-2014, 03:34 PM
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I've been making jelly candies (softer than gummies) for a while now and just decided I want to start adding lecithin to them. I wanted to make sure it wouldn't alter the consistency so I did a search to find out and came across this post. Have you noticed anything different when making these without lecithin?

I'd like to find out where you get your molds from. I've been using silicone molds but I'm always looking for different molds. Are the gummies easy to remove from the plastic molds? I know spraying them helps as you said but do they easily slip out?

The other thing I wanted to mention was your calculation for how many mg are in each candy. When you say there is 114mg in each, I don't think you are taking into account the decarb rate. 114mg is how much would be in there if it was 100% THC. But when you decarb you have to deduct approximately 45% from that 114. Doing this you come out to about 63mg per piece. With this way of calculating mg, I've come very spot on with my edibles when I get them tested. Just wanting to share some info with a fellow candy maker :-)
I find lecithin really helps the high somehow, my gummies are nice and stiff so I haven't had any problems with consistency and I've been using this recipe for a while now.
Not adding lecithin seems to make them feel less potent, and I've had a number of reliable "test subjects" >:-)
It also helps bioavailablity as you can begin to feel something about 30 mins after eating one, but without lecithin that same feeling took 45-60 mins to kick-in.

I just grabbed my molds from Bulk Barn, a good coating of cooking spray makes the candies slide right out, you just need a little thing to pry them out with but it isn't hard at all.

Thanks for the info on the decarbing, I'll take that into consideration from now on.
The guy who showed me how to make these is doing the math wrong and his recipe sucks, so he claims his to be 100mg which I KNOW they aren't because mine blow people away....
so if these aren't 114mg, then I can't imagine how low the doses are in his candies lmao.




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I have been making candies for a number of years. This is a recipe I have needed too. I have the same problem with the sugar melting the gelatin. I thought it was maybe the Jello so I tried Knox. That melted too, I did try the superfine, no better. Powdered sugar stays slimy.

Never used agar agar so am going to listen for how you do Chonski. I keep meaning to try as our coop is carrying it now. I do make "applets", "cotlets" & gum drops from my apples, apricots, grape juice and blackberries I pick. It really is different and much better.

I think I solved the melting sugar problem.

When you pop them out of the molds put them into a large bowl of sugar and let them sit in there, in the fridge, for a good couple of hours.

Remove them and bang off the excess suagr then let them sit in the fridge again for another few hours.
This seems to cure the sugar to the candies, and the mold release will bind the sugar to the gelatin/candy.

Personally though I don't use sugar as these have enough flavor without that extra, sticky coating.






If these get more popular around here I definitely want to try using glucose or something other than gelatin to make candies like the ones you buy in stores.

I also want to try using real fruit juices if I can find them in the flavors I'm making. I'd imagine that grape gummies made with welch's grape juice would be outstanding.
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I just updated the recipe again to include my drying method.
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I've been making chocolates lately that destroy my friends........seeing this thread makes me wanna make some gummy bears. I saw a kit at wally world the other day for making gummies, think I'm gonna get it today...
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I've been making chocolates lately that destroy my friends........seeing this thread makes me wanna make some gummy bears. I saw a kit at wally world the other day for making gummies, think I'm gonna get it today...

I've seen that, it might work well enough if you're only making small personal amounts from time to time, but it's probably much easier to just make it in a pot and separate molds like I do.

it's really not that complicated once you make a few batches and work out your process.
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Excellent! Thanks BigJohnny!
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Cool recipe, buddy.. So, each jelly would feel like consuming about a half of a gram of high grade cannabis flowers? 10 of those jellies might put a person on a guided tour of the Yellow Brick Road, fun!.. Are they very bitter?
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Cool recipe, buddy.. So, each jelly would feel like consuming about a half of a gram of high grade cannabis flowers? 10 of those jellies might put a person on a guided tour of the Yellow Brick Road, fun!.. Are they very bitter?
heh, two of them will send you rocket ride through astro land, 3 them will utterly destroy a person. The difference between these and high grade flowers is that these will last up to 8 hours or more.

They aren't too bitter but it really depends on the oil itself. You can definitely taste it and it does leave a bit lingering aftertaste.
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I've been making jelly candies (softer than gummies) for a while now and just decided I want to start adding lecithin to them. I wanted to make sure it wouldn't alter the consistency so I did a search to find out and came across this post. Have you noticed anything different when making these without lecithin?

I'd like to find out where you get your molds from. I've been using silicone molds but I'm always looking for different molds. Are the gummies easy to remove from the plastic molds? I know spraying them helps as you said but do they easily slip out?

The other thing I wanted to mention was your calculation for how many mg are in each candy. When you say there is 114mg in each, I don't think you are taking into account the decarb rate. 114mg is how much would be in there if it was 100% THC. But when you decarb you have to deduct approximately 45% from that 114. Doing this you come out to about 63mg per piece. With this way of calculating mg, I've come very spot on with my edibles when I get them tested. Just wanting to share some info with a fellow candy maker :-)
Treemama, I have a question for you regarding the decarb rate. If one were to make this recipe with shatter that had been tested and showed 80% thca for instance, would 80% of the gross weight be the amount of thc in the mix or would it be 55% of that? Thank you!
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