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mtntrogger · 10-01-2014, 08:17 PM

Hey I was hoping someone could answer a stupid question for me . I am a novice chucker but like to correctly name/ Id my work. I always list the female parent first. I am working on my third "chuck". I crossed a male ox plant with my female flo mom to get Flo x Ox . Then I grew out these F1. I kept one each of the F1s a male and a female. I am going to cross these two sibling to make the F2 gen. I am also (at the same time) going to back cross these f1 (flo x Ox) to each of the parents the flo mom and the ox dad. So if I cross the Flo x Ox to the mom it would be Flo x Flo x Ox or is this referred to as a "BX1" ? Will the backcross to the dad ( Ox x Flo x Ox) also be technically called a "BX1" ? or is this designated differently ? What is correct way to call / label these ?

Betterhaff · 10-01-2014, 10:28 PM

Flo x (Flo x Ox) and (Flo x Ox) x Ox. Both are Bx1. In some circles they could also be called F2’s but I’m more from the school of calling F2’s the matings of F1’s.

mtntrogger · 10-02-2014, 05:04 PM

Hey thanks betterhaff, I appreciate it ! I also am of the belief that f2 are the progeny of f1.

JointOperation · 10-06-2014, 04:35 PM

ya im actually in the middle of waiting for the seeds from a backcross to finish..

lol.. i got this deadhead og kush.. thats a lil lanky.. used a super afghani male.. that the females are super dense crystally as fuck.. stalky plants.. hit the deadhead 1 time .. now hitting the deadhead with a male from that cross..

not sure how far i will take it..

but.. im trying to create something that smells and tastes like deadhead.. but yields better. fatter and colas instead of golfballs.

shawkmon · 10-06-2014, 04:44 PM

bx1 , i wish my friend would bx his male sd ibl , he saved pollen from years ago . it makes every plant he touches so much more potent . i never ever see people bx the male side

Miraculous Meds · 10-06-2014, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mtntrogger

Hey I was hoping someone could answer a stupid question for me . I am a novice chucker but like to correctly name/ Id my work. I always list the female parent first. I am working on my third "chuck". I crossed a male ox plant with my female flo mom to get Flo x Ox . Then I grew out these F1. I kept one each of the F1s a male and a female. I am going to cross these two sibling to make the F2 gen. I am also (at the same time) going to back cross these f1 (flo x Ox) to each of the parents the flo mom and the ox dad. So if I cross the Flo x Ox to the mom it would be Flo x Flo x Ox or is this referred to as a "BX1" ? Will the backcross to the dad ( Ox x Flo x Ox) also be technically called a "BX1" ? or is this designated differently ? What is correct way to call / label these ?

Ive talked with dj about situations like this. So when u backcross u can label with the bx if u want, but he always considers any cross a step forward in generations. So while ur back cross can be labeled with bx, dj would consider it a f2, if u then back crossed that first bx again, he would call it f3. But to keep it clear in ur notes u can labels with bx, and bx2, just know uve moved it forward to f3, from what dj has explained to me.

Dropped Cat · 10-07-2014, 03:04 AM

So if I hit an F2 with one of the parents of the F1's the resulting plants are F3/BX
is that what he says?

So glad I don't breed for a living, lol. Shit's complicated sometimes.

Is there a standard labeling breeders use?

JointOperation · 10-07-2014, 03:43 PM

its difficult.. that is why i just write shit down as say..

DeadheadOG (F) X DeadheadOG(F) x Afghani (M) "MALE" (C)

what would we call say.. if i took a

Deadhead OG(F) x Afghani (M) "Female" X DeadheadOG(F) x Afghani (M) "MALE" (C)

NEGT1 · 10-07-2014, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dropped Cat

So if I hit an F2 with one of the parents of the F1's the resulting plants are F3/BX
is that what he says?

So glad I don't breed for a living, lol. Shit's complicated sometimes.

Is there a standard labeling breeders use?

It's hard to find any standard in cannabis, let alone in breeding.

Miraculous Meds · 10-07-2014, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dropped Cat

So if I hit an F2 with one of the parents of the F1's the resulting plants are F3/BX
is that what he says?

So glad I don't breed for a living, lol. Shit's complicated sometimes.

Is there a standard labeling breeders use?

I don't know that he would label it that way specifically, just that he would consider it an f3.

10-01-2014, 08:17 PM	#1
mtntrogger Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: colorado Posts: 898	Backcross question Hey I was hoping someone could answer a stupid question for me . I am a novice chucker but like to correctly name/ Id my work. I always list the female parent first. I am working on my third "chuck". I crossed a male ox plant with my female flo mom to get Flo x Ox . Then I grew out these F1. I kept one each of the F1s a male and a female. I am going to cross these two sibling to make the F2 gen. I am also (at the same time) going to back cross these f1 (flo x Ox) to each of the parents the flo mom and the ox dad. So if I cross the Flo x Ox to the mom it would be Flo x Flo x Ox or is this referred to as a "BX1" ? Will the backcross to the dad ( Ox x Flo x Ox) also be technically called a "BX1" ? or is this designated differently ? What is correct way to call / label these ?
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10-06-2014, 04:44 PM	#5
shawkmon Pleasantly dissociated Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: St. Somewhere Posts: 2,145	bx1 , i wish my friend would bx his male sd ibl , he saved pollen from years ago . it makes every plant he touches so much more potent . i never ever see people bx the male side __________________ 🌕🌖🌗🌘🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕 Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves. Henry David Thoreau
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10-07-2014, 03:04 AM	#7
Dropped Cat Six Gummi Bears and Some Scotch Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 2,615	So if I hit an F2 with one of the parents of the F1's the resulting plants are F3/BX is that what he says? So glad I don't breed for a living, lol. Shit's complicated sometimes. Is there a standard labeling breeders use? __________________ "So we're just done with phrasing, right, that's not a thing anymore?."
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10-01-2014, 10:28 PM	#2
Betterhaff Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,568	Flo x (Flo x Ox) and (Flo x Ox) x Ox. Both are Bx1. In some circles they could also be called F2’s but I’m more from the school of calling F2’s the matings of F1’s.
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10-02-2014, 05:04 PM	#3
mtntrogger Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: colorado Posts: 898	Hey thanks betterhaff, I appreciate it ! I also am of the belief that f2 are the progeny of f1.
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10-06-2014, 04:35 PM	#4
JointOperation Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 1,971	ya im actually in the middle of waiting for the seeds from a backcross to finish.. lol.. i got this deadhead og kush.. thats a lil lanky.. used a super afghani male.. that the females are super dense crystally as fuck.. stalky plants.. hit the deadhead 1 time .. now hitting the deadhead with a male from that cross.. not sure how far i will take it.. but.. im trying to create something that smells and tastes like deadhead.. but yields better. fatter and colas instead of golfballs.
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10-07-2014, 03:43 PM	#8
JointOperation Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 1,971	its difficult.. that is why i just write shit down as say.. DeadheadOG (F) X DeadheadOG(F) x Afghani (M) "MALE" (C) what would we call say.. if i took a Deadhead OG(F) x Afghani (M) "Female" X DeadheadOG(F) x Afghani (M) "MALE" (C)
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