[IndoGorilla]

Originally Posted by BigBozat

Wondering:
Use citrus terpenes as the solvent?

[IDK if, eg, d-limonene or a-pinene, etc are polar or non-polar? But, since we're already smokin' terpenes , using it in a grow to create a tria foliar presumably wouldn't be anymore of a health concern risk than already exists w/ terpenes in canabis to begin with?]

I believe the gentleman Horatio Delbert has been making Limonene Hash Oil LHO for some time. Cheers!

As far as I know I heard it generally tests very low ppm, much more pure than most BHO.

[LSWM]

In the past I have asssumed Floralicious Plus had tria in it. I don't know for sure, but I have noticed foxtailing if I use it too late into flower.

According to the Oregon fert database it lists Humic acid, Sea Kelp, IBA, NAA, Polyacrylamide, and Vitamin B1.

Source: https://oda.state.or.us/dbs/heavy_met...roduct_id=7400

So the foxtailing may have just been due to sea kelp, or the IBA or NAA, or I'm just imagining it. I've never used it as a foliar.

[IndoGorilla]

When is the latest in flower we should be using tria products?? At what stages specifically?

As stated before, I am a new grower on his 2nd grow, and my first grow I followed the directions on the bottle(green planet massive) using it through all of flowering at recommended dose except during the flush, thus experiencing some crowning/foxtailing.

[Hottish]

Originally Posted by IndoGorilla

When is the latest in flower we should be using tria products?? At what stages specifically?

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Try harder

Read as far as post # 37

[BigBozat]

Originally Posted by LSWM

In the past I have asssumed Floralicious Plus had tria in it. I don't know for sure, but I have noticed foxtailing if I use it too late into flower.

According to the Oregon fert database it lists Humic acid, Sea Kelp, IBA, NAA, Polyacrylamide, and Vitamin B1.

Source: https://oda.state.or.us/dbs/heavy_met...roduct_id=7400

So the foxtailing may have just been due to sea kelp, or the IBA or NAA, or I'm just imagining it. I've never used it as a foliar.

FWIW, AFAIK kelp/seaweed generally doesn't contain tria... but it does have lots of cytokinins... ergo, your foxtailing would have to be due to the ratio of auxins (IBA, NAA) -to-cytokinins... when cytokinins > auxins, induces shoot formation...

[LSWM]

Originally Posted by BigBozat

FWIW, AFAIK kelp/seaweed generally doesn't contain tria... but it does have lots of cytokinins... ergo, your foxtailing would have to be due to the ratio of auxins (IBA, NAA) -to-cytokinins... when cytokinins > auxins, induces shoot formation...

Well I just am about to finish two trays without using it once. And another 4 trays where I am using it consistently. I'm at about week 4 and only have used it in the reservoir. Never as foliar.

A few questions... sorry if they are rudimentary.

Would tria be recommended concurrently or alternatively?
Or alternate one and the other?
Does the opposite ratio have an effect?
What week would you recommend dropping such a ratio and the same for tria?

[Siever]

Originally Posted by LSWM

Would tria be recommended concurrently or alternatively?
Or alternate one and the other?
Does the opposite ratio have an effect?
What week would you recommend dropping such a ratio and the same for tria?

concurrently.
Different hormones regulate different processes. Think about testosteron and Human growth hormone. They have very different purposes, but both are hormones.

Siever

[BigBozat]

Originally Posted by LSWM

Well I just am about to finish two trays without using it once. And another 4 trays where I am using it consistently. I'm at about week 4 and only have used it in the reservoir. Never as foliar.

A few questions... sorry if they are rudimentary.

Would tria be recommended concurrently or alternatively?
Or alternate one and the other?
Does the opposite ratio have an effect?
What week would you recommend dropping such a ratio and the same for tria?

:
what he said in re: concurrently & diverse nature/roles of diff phytohormones...

Yes, the opposite ratio - auxins > cytokinins - induces root formation/growth instead... and, when auxins = cytokinins, it forms an undifferentiated callus in tissue culturing (so I'm told, I don't do it)

As storm shadow said was back @ #37, tria is best used in veg and first couple weeks of flowering

As for schedule for modifying application rates of auxins vs cytokinins, a detailed response might require the adv grow thread (shaggyballs, verdant green, only ornamental, father earth & others)... don't wanna

[BigBozat]

Originally Posted by BigBozat

:
what he said in re: concurrently & diverse nature/roles of diff phytohormones...

Yes, the opposite ratio - auxins > cytokinins - induces root formation/growth instead... and, when auxins = cytokinins, it forms an undifferentiated callus in tissue culturing (so I'm told, I don't do it)

As storm shadow said was back @ #37, tria is best used in veg and first couple weeks of flowering

As for schedule for modifying application rates of auxins vs cytokinins, a detailed response might require the adv grow thread (shaggyballs, verdant green, only ornamental, father earth & others)... don't wanna

Not product-specific, but fwiw:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/1...45.2011.619281

[Sylvester1]

Originally Posted by BigBozat

So, re-recapping again (and throwing in another I ran across elsewhere):

• Alfalfa meal
• Maxicrop Liquid Seaweed
• AN's Nirvana
• Atami's Bloombastic
• GreenPlanet's Massive Bloom
• GrowMore Jump Start
• MBferts Hormone-Vitamin Booster
• Sunjay 2in1 liquid Tria & Bio Seaweed Extract
• BioGard Agrinomics' Calcium-25
• CANNA Boost
• Bloom Advanced Floriculture's Bloom Oooze & Final

As well as [perhaps? ] these (clarification/cites/confirming evidence needed):

• Vitamin Institute's SuperThrive (?)
• General Hydro's Liquid KoolBloom (?)
• Home & Garden's TopShooter (?)

Our lab has run a variety of products on gas chromatograph, and many of these label claims are simply not true. Alfalfa certainly has triacontanol in it. The samples of Boost we ran were positive for triacontanol as well.