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Old 09-30-2014, 06:10 AM
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Bloombastic is probably the best t-nol readily available product, in my opinion. But since I learned what t-nol has done in lab studies I have since refused to use the product. Recently I went to work as a COO of a lettuce and kale farm. There I learned different high yield techniques from other indoor farmers who produced similar produce as the ones I was familiar with. Anyways, t-nol is linked to cancer causing agents. I mean really, what do you expect from a product that can increase yields 20% or more? Don't you know that product enters the body? That product also act similar inside the body as it did to the plant. Mikell, I have been doing this since 98-99, a dipshit know-nothing is not a good description of me. I wasn't even talking to you anyways, you're a nobody on here. What you say is shit, meaningless. Like I was saying, the MJ world needs to take more responsibility in what they sell the to masses. I can't wait until the days when we will have to place ingredients on our labels. I know, you have no fucking clue about the future of this business and your existence in it. Why am I even addressing your know nothing ass!?! Carry on.
Sounds like you know your stuff, so you probably know that plant growth regulators don't have an effect on humans and that you're likely to encounter more PGRs eating an organic mushroom or apple than you are from smoking bud grown with one.
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Sherlock Holmes says, read the label and if the active ingredients are derived from "alfalfa", then it probably contains Triacontanol.

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Anyways, t-nol is linked to cancer causing agents.
What does that mean? Triacontanol hangs out with a bad crowd?

Sure, he studies and gets good grades, stays out of trouble.. But he hangs out with those hooligans Cockroach and Theo and Paclobuzatrol.

Seriously if you have something scary about tria to post, please do. Lots of us using it..
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:17 PM
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People are so anal these days about what you can put into your plants. Smoke inhalation itself is far worse than trace amounts TRIA in the product. With all the PGR and GMO food and products out there, you have a lot bigger things to worry about.

Ok maybe 40% more yield was it bit a of a reach. At least 25-30% increase though for sure. About 5 years back i ran tons of trials with TRIA derived from sea kelp and alfalfa meal. I believe it was mostly maxicrop liquid, and GH Florablend, but in higher doses than reccomended. I only applied it by foliar application anywhere from the last 2 weeks of veg, to wks 1-3 of flower. I tested different strengths at different weeks, as well how many times it needed to be applied to get satisfactory results. To say the least, i ended up finding the perfect method. Unfortunately, shortly after, the septic tank backed up into the house and ruined all of my logged data. I wasnt able to get set back up for a while after that mess, and in the mean time i forgot what was working the best. I faintly remember finding that the perfect dose of maxicrop had to be just high enough to where the leaves would look like they are starting to get overfed, but then a day or two later everything is fine and the plants look great. Then a day or two after that buds start forming very quickly. Vertical growth slows, internodal distance decreases, and onset of flowers is accelerated. This is why you get more yield. The quicker you can get flowers to form, the more you will yield overall. In the end i do remember that it was just one heavy dose right around the last day of veg or first day of flower. I do not recall what the rate was.
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Bloombastic is probably the best t-nol readily available product, in my opinion. But since I learned what t-nol has done in lab studies I have since refused to use the product. Recently I went to work as a COO of a lettuce and kale farm. There I learned different high yield techniques from other indoor farmers who produced similar produce as the ones I was familiar with. Anyways, t-nol is linked to cancer causing agents. I mean really, what do you expect from a product that can increase yields 20% or more? Don't you know that product enters the body? That product also act similar inside the body as it did to the plant. Mikell, I have been doing this since 98-99, a dipshit know-nothing is not a good description of me. I wasn't even talking to you anyways, you're a nobody on here. What you say is shit, meaningless. Like I was saying, the MJ world needs to take more responsibility in what they sell the to masses. I can't wait until the days when we will have to place ingredients on our labels. I know, you have no fucking clue about the future of this business and your existence in it. Why am I even addressing your know nothing ass!?! Carry on.
Don't get all butt hurt over what some nobody on a forum says to you.

You're addressing me because I commented on the unsubstantiated information you posted, but mostly, because it pissed you off to all hell. Feel free to act like a pompous ass that puts merit in post count and forum whoring.

I am a know nothing ass, but when I say something, I can back it up with links or references to objective information that will hold up to scrutinization. At the very minimum, it is sourced from a highly respected person in the community, who doesn't rely on bluster or broad claims. What are these statements that you have provided no real information on, other than your own fear mongering conjecture? What use are you, who grows for 20+ years and carries this kind of approach?

Come up with something at least. I'd rather be proven wrong and learn something new.
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OK newbie question guys.

I have read great things about: Bloombastic

and someone mentioned AN's Nirvana.

What are the other most popular products for T-nol in cannabis
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Alfalfa meal? Though now I'm thinking it's the culprit of all these massive tumours
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Alfalfa meal? Though now I'm thinking it's the culprit of all these massive tumours
It is scientifically proven that horses live less than 100 years, and they also eat alfalfa. COINCIDENCE? I think not.

And this is where it gets weird... Alfalfa from the little rascals also died an early death at the age of 31. He was attempting to rough up a stranger in their own house and was shot in the chest with a .38 caliber handgun.

Alfalfa strikes again. I think we can all see the lesson here... Triacontanol is dangerous.
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Don't get all butt hurt over what some nobody on a forum says to you.

You're addressing me because I commented on the unsubstantiated information you posted, but mostly, because it pissed you off to all hell. Feel free to act like a pompous ass that puts merit in post count and forum whoring.

I am a know nothing ass, but when I say something, I can back it up with links or references to objective information that will hold up to scrutinization. At the very minimum, it is sourced from a highly respected person in the community, who doesn't rely on bluster or broad claims. What are these statements that you have provided no real information on, other than your own fear mongering conjecture? What use are you, who grows for 20+ years and carries this kind of approach?

Come up with something at least. I'd rather be proven wrong and learn something new.
Raw_Dog is full o' sh!t...

Hurray for Mikell calling him out & standing his ground


There's a reason Raw_Dog doesn't offer any reference/cite/link/source, which is... there ain't any... not a single cite anywhere that I can find implicating tria as a carcinogen...


In fact, as others have pointed out, the evidence runs in the opposite direction... tria is implicated as a cancer-inhibitor...


Accordingly, I second Mikell's nomination for handing the crown to Raw_Dog, along with a special recognition for his achievements in the field of Paranoid Luddite Reactionarism...
I salute you sir!
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