[VECCHIOSBALLONE]

Sorry if I jump in, I am Italian and would like to say few things:
Here what we call km 0 markets are fairly cheaper than grocery, but they are regulated as well and the seller is supposed to pay all his taxes.
About feedom of choiches and so on, that we may like it or not, to smoke inst so healty
a specific tax which is meant to pay the sanitary service for smokers and for those who wich to stopo it wouldnt bad IMAO, but I am european, we think that a state is one if it provides free education and health care for its people.
Of course as none wish to help crime organization this tax should have to be low enough to make competitive the price of controlled cannabis.

[stoned-trout]

if they tax it like ciggies or booze it will be expensive and the black market will still thrive....I don't think they deserve the tax money after all they done to us smokers

[MJPassion]

Originally Posted by NEGT1

I'm honestly struggling to even understand what you mean by this...

Freedom of choice...What the hell does that have to do with what I asked. Do you presume consumers don't want regulation? Regulation is testing and log keeping...You don't think consumers appreciate that?

Regulation is not testing & log keeping... I think you might want to go check your dictionary.
Testing & keeping logs is refered to as RECORD KEEPING.

[MJPassion]

Originally Posted by NEGT1

I can promise you that taxation and regulation is the only way to end prohibition. And that's not a bad thing if the tax and regulation is reasonable.

Now here's the perfect example of foolish thinking.

Black markets exist for the sole purpose of avoiding government intervention, taxes being the main thing to be avoided.
PROVE ME WRONG!

Taxation = Regulation = Prohibition
PROVE ME WRONG!

I'll be willing to bet you can't show one form of regulation where freedom of choice is not lost.

Freedom of both the grower & the consumer are at stake here.
No group has a higher priority than another.

[MJPassion]

To conclude...

Consumers should appreciate the growers that make the extra effort to produce quality products. Record keeping has nothing to do with quality of product.

I have but one question...
How many consumers ask to see the records of the grow/grower?
I think I already know the answer to that question as well...
A big fat ZERO.

[MJPassion]

Originally Posted by NEGT1

Full blown retail with regulation and tax similar to alcohol, or something closer to farmers markets?

Originally Posted by NEGT1

I'm honestly struggling to even understand what you mean by this...

As the Question is written, it seems that you imply that farmer's markets are not taxed or regulated.

Sorry for my misunderstanding.

Maybe it would be wise for everybody to make their questions/comments clear so as to leave the possibility of assumptions to a minimum.

[thatonedude]

marijuana should be treated like herbs and supplements. if you want to grow valerian root or rosemary or garlic its perfectly legal and you can even give it away or sell it if you want.

if your going to sell it in a pill form there are private regulatory organizations that will inspect your product and put their stamp on it. but in raw form they are just hunks of plant material.

that's how weed should be. soon there would be so much of it available that the prices would be next to other herbs like catnip, and basil. or maybe more like coffee and chocolate

and that's the way it should be.

[MJPassion]

Here's a great example of what ya get with a regulated market.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=295733

[NW Wheeze]

Originally Posted by MJPassion

To conclude...

Consumers should appreciate the growers that make the extra effort to produce quality products. Record keeping has nothing to do with quality of product.

I have but one question...
How many consumers ask to see the records of the grow/grower?
I think I already know the answer to that question as well...
A big fat ZERO.

THat is what I found weird when I first got in to smoking. No one has ANY details about the weed they are selling. If I bought directly from a grower I could get some details about the specific harvest. But from a dispensary the only answer is "uhhh... this one is a sativa".

When I started growing I made sure to keep data on my grows. Nothing too crazy, but things like length of flower period, length of cure, type of nutrients used, if any pesticide was used (and when it was used)...etc. Most of the patients I deal with do not care much about this information. But they DO know that I care, and I have their best interest in mind. I would rather help someone learn how to make their own, instead of just selling them a bag of weed.

There was a reason for the laws making it illegal to teach slaves how to read.

Knowledge=Freedom.

[amannamedtruth]

Having both would seem like the best option.