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StinkyGreen · 08-29-2014, 12:40 AM

Hi everyone. I'm taking my first plunge into Chimera's genetics and figured I'd share my experience here in the hope that I can pick up some nuggets of wisdom from some of the more experienced folks.

I'm a hobby grower, living in the Pacific Northwest. My grow room is an unused shower stall (8') in a corner of my basement. I grow in soil under a 600W light. Although this is my 6th grow, I still consider myself a beginner as there is always more to learn.

I started growing with Mandala genetics as I liked their philosophy, strain descriptions, and low prices. I was very pleased with the results I got. Since then I've learned a lot about other breeders and strains, and Chimera was at the top of my list to try next.

I like a clear, creative, thought-provoking high, preferably with a bit of pleasure-enhancing body effect. I chose three strains to start: Fighting Buddha, Sweetest/Dolce Sativa, and Grapefruit x Blueberry. I got some BOG Blue Kush freebies with my seed order, so I planted those as well.

(For the record, I'd also love to give HMxBB a try at some point, if I can ever find seeds.)

I realize that one should ideally plant an entire pack of seeds and hunt for a keeper, but I'm more interested in variety at this point, so I planted 3 seeds of each strain in the hope that I'll end up with 1 female of each. I'm not really concerned about yield (I don't smoke that much) so I'll probably flower early and go for smaller plants.

Next post will have some pictures

nukklehead · 08-29-2014, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by StinkyGreen

Hi everyone. I'm taking my first plunge into Chimera's genetics and figured I'd share my experience here in the hope that I can pick up some nuggets of wisdom from some of the more experienced folks.

I'm a hobby grower, living in the Pacific Northwest. My grow room is an unused shower stall (8') in a corner of my basement. I grow in soil under a 600W light. Although this is my 6th grow, I still consider myself a beginner as there is always more to learn.

I started growing with Mandala genetics as I liked their philosophy, strain descriptions, and low prices. I was very pleased with the results I got. Since then I've learned a lot about other breeders and strains, and Chimera was at the top of my list to try next.

I like a clear, creative, thought-provoking high, preferably with a bit of pleasure-enhancing body effect. I chose three strains to start: Fighting Buddha, Sweetest/Dolce Sativa, and Grapefruit x Blueberry. I got some BOG Blue Kush freebies with my seed order, so I planted those as well.

(For the record, I'd also love to give HMxBB a try at some point, if I can ever find seeds.)

I realize that one should ideally plant an entire pack of seeds and hunt for a keeper, but I'm more interested in variety at this point, so I planted 3 seeds of each strain in the hope that I'll end up with 1 female of each. I'm not really concerned about yield (I don't smoke that much) so I'll probably flower early and go for smaller plants.

Next post will have some pictures

You sound like a good grower luke..... after mandala you are coming to the darkside..... lol.....

No seriously.... I am sure there are peeps that have done the same as you but I cant remember the posts... sounds familiar..............

Wait a minute it was me.... pop my cherry with dutch... internet became fashionable... grew the mandala for quite a while and moved on except for Satori.... but lets not talk about that...

( " I dont smoke that much").... You my friend got it going on...

You are starting small and cheaply (not that I am still cheap)....

And then as you smartly research you come across chimera..

(1 of the best ...imo)......glad I rode his coat tails early....... lol

Not gonna bitch or brag..... ( the farmers quote)

Grow out chimera.... find your queens.... you will.....

then move on to what ever fancies you.....

Not much of a better base then mandala/chimera....... they will
always shine...

When all is said and done... they prob. can be outperformed but for most of us
peeps..... Like I said no beating that base...... (mom collection for a rainy day..)
very low maintenance.....

I play with fire but keep my mandala and chimeras mums far away.... and no one goes without
in my secure circle..just saying...

Peach Brother

Kalbhairav · 08-29-2014, 12:23 PM

StinkyGreen,

You're much the same as me when it comes to type and effect of high. I think you've hot on the right path for finding just what you're looking for. The GF x BB is lovely smoke and plant. It has a tendency to stretch quite a bit during flower so watch out for that. The FB is lovely for sativa type effect without blowing the mind.. These two are going to be right up your alley. The Dolce I've never grown but brother mayan loves this plant and his opinion is word to me. The effect will be a bit more full on but premium in all respects.

One thing I would watch out for would be over feeding. These BB hybrids can sometimes act up of given too much go juice.. Oh and stretch, they're all going to want to go skyward so if height is an issue maybe think about flowering from clone..

Best of luck and look forward to seeing your progress

bill cooper · 08-29-2014, 12:57 PM

I have to totally disagree there Kalbhairav about GF x BB being stretchy , everyone i have grown has doubled in height at the most so its far from being a stretchy strain imo and if stinky is after a clear high Gf xBB is not the best choice as its far from a clear high in fact i find it quite a cloudy forgetful high , don't get me wrong its probably my favorite strain for the feel good euphoric high but i would never describe it as clear.

Out of the Chimera strains i have grown i would say the GF x BB is the least sensitive to nutes unlike the Fighting Buddha which is defo sensitive to N and does do a fair bit of stretching but it fits Stinky's description of the high he likes far better, i can't comment on the Dolce as i am yet to grow it but i would expect it to stretch even more than the FB , anyway good luck with the grow stinky i am sure you will love all 3 strains

Kalbhairav · 08-29-2014, 01:12 PM

True; GF x BB isn't clear but I wouldn't class it as classic WLD/indica effect either. In comparison with other indies it is far from them being mixed lineage with obvious NLD heritage.

The GF x BB be very finicky with N if you have a heavy BB dom specimen. Stretch I have found to be pheno dependant also. Not all reach but I have had some that did a lot of reaching (certainly not as much as the FB, Dolce as Bill points out).

StinkyGreen · 08-29-2014, 08:39 PM

Thank you for the warm welcome and advice! I've come to believe that less is more when it comes to fertilization, so hopefully I won't run into problems.

I have 8' of height to play with and I'm not afraid to top, do LST, and can easily install a SCROG screen in my setup, so I feel ready for whatever stretching brings.

I really like hearing about other people's experiences with the highs provided from different strains. Seems to me that being able to provide a detailed description of a particular high is an art form. I suspect the GFxBB high might not be what I describe as my ideal, but so many people seem to love this strain I had to try it. Got to keep trying new things, right?

bill cooper · 08-29-2014, 08:51 PM

With 8 feet of height i think even the HM x BB would have been no problem

The GF x BB might not be your ideal high but i am sure you will love it or it might even become your ideal high

StinkyGreen · 08-29-2014, 08:57 PM

It's been two weeks since I put seeds to soil. I plant directly in Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil, water carefully, and keep temps at about 80 degrees. Has always worked for me in the past, but this time I had less than 100% success. Details by strain:

GFxBB - 100% success. All three seeds were up first and are growing vigorously.

Fighting Buddha - only 1 out of 3 popped. I planted 2 more 4 days later, and only one of those popped, and that one looks kind of sickly. It's the one on the bottom right of the photo. I'll give it a chance - it still might turn around.

Dolce Sativa - 100% germ rate, but one of the seedlings never really grew out of the soil. It just sat there. It's the one at the top left of the photo. I'll probably toss it, but it's causing no harm for now. I also planted one more, and it popped. That's the one right below it. It's a few days behind, but looking healthy.

Blue Kush - 100-% germ rate; all growing healthily. The one on the top is significantly shorter/squatter than the others. Interesting to see such a clear difference in phenotype so early.

Overall I can't complain - my odds of getting a few girls are good. I'm slightly bummed that my odds are the worst with Fighting Buddha, as that's the strain I'm most excited to try, but I'm going to press forward with the grow anyway.

Kalbhairav · 08-29-2014, 09:13 PM

Ahh, hoping the FB make it for you man.. sorry to hear about your germ rates with them. All looking great so far..

8 feet is a decent height.. It's going to be fun..

StinkyGreen · 09-17-2014, 06:54 AM

I flipped to 12/12 about 10 days ago and while I'm not 100% confident about sex yet, I'm confident enough to post an update

Here's how things turned out:

Dolce Sativa (SS) - Looks like I'm 4/4 females! The seedling that never really grew is only few inches high (it's not visible in the picture) but looks otherwise like a completely normal plant. It's like a bonsai. The other 3 vary in height.

GFxBB (ST) - 2/3 females. The male is the tall one in the front.

Blue Kush (BK) - 2/3 females. Clearly a tall and short pheno.

Fighting Buddha - 1 great looking male, and 1 messed up plant that has yet to show sex, but I suspect will be female.

Overall I'm pretty happy with the results. The question now on my mind is what to do with the males. I personally don't mind having seeded buds - seeds make me happy. I'm tempted to let either the Fighting Buddha male (which has a nice compact structure) or the GFxBB male (which is the tallest of them all) fertilize the females so I can have some seeds to play with. Any reason this is a bad idea? Any reason to choose one male over the other?

08-29-2014, 12:40 AM	#1
StinkyGreen Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 322	Stinky Green's Fighting Buddha, Dolce Sativa, and GFxBB Hi everyone. I'm taking my first plunge into Chimera's genetics and figured I'd share my experience here in the hope that I can pick up some nuggets of wisdom from some of the more experienced folks. I'm a hobby grower, living in the Pacific Northwest. My grow room is an unused shower stall (8') in a corner of my basement. I grow in soil under a 600W light. Although this is my 6th grow, I still consider myself a beginner as there is always more to learn. I started growing with Mandala genetics as I liked their philosophy, strain descriptions, and low prices. I was very pleased with the results I got. Since then I've learned a lot about other breeders and strains, and Chimera was at the top of my list to try next. I like a clear, creative, thought-provoking high, preferably with a bit of pleasure-enhancing body effect. I chose three strains to start: Fighting Buddha, Sweetest/Dolce Sativa, and Grapefruit x Blueberry. I got some BOG Blue Kush freebies with my seed order, so I planted those as well. (For the record, I'd also love to give HMxBB a try at some point, if I can ever find seeds.) I realize that one should ideally plant an entire pack of seeds and hunt for a keeper, but I'm more interested in variety at this point, so I planted 3 seeds of each strain in the hope that I'll end up with 1 female of each. I'm not really concerned about yield (I don't smoke that much) so I'll probably flower early and go for smaller plants. Next post will have some pictures
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08-29-2014, 12:23 PM	#3
Kalbhairav ~~ ॐ नमः शिवाय ~~ Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,041	StinkyGreen, You're much the same as me when it comes to type and effect of high. I think you've hot on the right path for finding just what you're looking for. The GF x BB is lovely smoke and plant. It has a tendency to stretch quite a bit during flower so watch out for that. The FB is lovely for sativa type effect without blowing the mind.. These two are going to be right up your alley. The Dolce I've never grown but brother mayan loves this plant and his opinion is word to me. The effect will be a bit more full on but premium in all respects. One thing I would watch out for would be over feeding. These BB hybrids can sometimes act up of given too much go juice.. Oh and stretch, they're all going to want to go skyward so if height is an issue maybe think about flowering from clone.. Best of luck and look forward to seeing your progress __________________
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08-29-2014, 12:57 PM	#4
bill cooper Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 305	I have to totally disagree there Kalbhairav about GF x BB being stretchy , everyone i have grown has doubled in height at the most so its far from being a stretchy strain imo and if stinky is after a clear high Gf xBB is not the best choice as its far from a clear high in fact i find it quite a cloudy forgetful high , don't get me wrong its probably my favorite strain for the feel good euphoric high but i would never describe it as clear. Out of the Chimera strains i have grown i would say the GF x BB is the least sensitive to nutes unlike the Fighting Buddha which is defo sensitive to N and does do a fair bit of stretching but it fits Stinky's description of the high he likes far better, i can't comment on the Dolce as i am yet to grow it but i would expect it to stretch even more than the FB , anyway good luck with the grow stinky i am sure you will love all 3 strains
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08-29-2014, 01:12 PM	#5
Kalbhairav ~~ ॐ नमः शिवाय ~~ Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,041	True; GF x BB isn't clear but I wouldn't class it as classic WLD/indica effect either. In comparison with other indies it is far from them being mixed lineage with obvious NLD heritage. The GF x BB be very finicky with N if you have a heavy BB dom specimen. Stretch I have found to be pheno dependant also. Not all reach but I have had some that did a lot of reaching (certainly not as much as the FB, Dolce as Bill points out). __________________
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08-29-2014, 08:39 PM	#6
StinkyGreen Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 322	Thank you for the warm welcome and advice! I've come to believe that less is more when it comes to fertilization, so hopefully I won't run into problems. I have 8' of height to play with and I'm not afraid to top, do LST, and can easily install a SCROG screen in my setup, so I feel ready for whatever stretching brings. I really like hearing about other people's experiences with the highs provided from different strains. Seems to me that being able to provide a detailed description of a particular high is an art form. I suspect the GFxBB high might not be what I describe as my ideal, but so many people seem to love this strain I had to try it. Got to keep trying new things, right?
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08-29-2014, 08:51 PM	#7
bill cooper Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 305	With 8 feet of height i think even the HM x BB would have been no problem The GF x BB might not be your ideal high but i am sure you will love it or it might even become your ideal high
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08-29-2014, 08:57 PM	#8
StinkyGreen Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 322	Germination Report It's been two weeks since I put seeds to soil. I plant directly in Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil, water carefully, and keep temps at about 80 degrees. Has always worked for me in the past, but this time I had less than 100% success. Details by strain: GFxBB - 100% success. All three seeds were up first and are growing vigorously. Fighting Buddha - only 1 out of 3 popped. I planted 2 more 4 days later, and only one of those popped, and that one looks kind of sickly. It's the one on the bottom right of the photo. I'll give it a chance - it still might turn around. Dolce Sativa - 100% germ rate, but one of the seedlings never really grew out of the soil. It just sat there. It's the one at the top left of the photo. I'll probably toss it, but it's causing no harm for now. I also planted one more, and it popped. That's the one right below it. It's a few days behind, but looking healthy. Blue Kush - 100-% germ rate; all growing healthily. The one on the top is significantly shorter/squatter than the others. Interesting to see such a clear difference in phenotype so early. Overall I can't complain - my odds of getting a few girls are good. I'm slightly bummed that my odds are the worst with Fighting Buddha, as that's the strain I'm most excited to try, but I'm going to press forward with the grow anyway.
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08-29-2014, 09:13 PM	#9
Kalbhairav ~~ ॐ नमः शिवाय ~~ Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,041	Ahh, hoping the FB make it for you man.. sorry to hear about your germ rates with them. All looking great so far.. 8 feet is a decent height.. It's going to be fun.. __________________
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09-17-2014, 06:54 AM	#10
StinkyGreen Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 322	Sexing I flipped to 12/12 about 10 days ago and while I'm not 100% confident about sex yet, I'm confident enough to post an update Here's how things turned out: Dolce Sativa (SS) - Looks like I'm 4/4 females! The seedling that never really grew is only few inches high (it's not visible in the picture) but looks otherwise like a completely normal plant. It's like a bonsai. The other 3 vary in height. GFxBB (ST) - 2/3 females. The male is the tall one in the front. Blue Kush (BK) - 2/3 females. Clearly a tall and short pheno. Fighting Buddha - 1 great looking male, and 1 messed up plant that has yet to show sex, but I suspect will be female. Overall I'm pretty happy with the results. The question now on my mind is what to do with the males. I personally don't mind having seeded buds - seeds make me happy. I'm tempted to let either the Fighting Buddha male (which has a nice compact structure) or the GFxBB male (which is the tallest of them all) fertilize the females so I can have some seeds to play with. Any reason this is a bad idea? Any reason to choose one male over the other?
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