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Old 08-21-2014, 07:54 PM #141
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I figured that there is something special in there that makes it better than something you can make yourself. I want to get photomag, pepzyme, and sea shield for starters. I have products already to substitute for the other stuff till I run out and will buy the remaining products instead.
My first 3 choices are rejuv, photomag and sea shield...those are the biggest bang for the buck. Then the tainio stuff..then the rest imo.

It would be a hard choice between rejuv and photomag. There is something magical about rejuv...no matter what the story is.
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Old 08-21-2014, 08:07 PM #142
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Trippin, I cut off the recommendations part of the soil report:

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Old 08-21-2014, 08:53 PM #143
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Those sulfur levels look huge, no? I don't know what's causing your high salt; biodynamics *is* a load of shit, but I've dealt with Bu's and it's generally high quality.
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What else would cause those high levels? How can I leech it out of the soil?
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Add spectrum extra from tainio if you have too much Na
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Add spectrum extra from tainio if you have too much Na
Not sure I want to lower my Na? It does look high but that would raise my K% lowering the Na%. I was thinking adding Cal/mg to up that % for sure. However, I value your advice highly. Edit: Trippin, I get confused with the scientific symbols, of course I want to lower the sodium.....Dumbass.....(me)

I just got off the phone with Dirty Soil, the people who did the tests, and the lady was saying my soil is actually pretty good. Sodium levels need to be dealt with, and she said a good 1tbs molasses per gal flush would help take care of that and up my Mg. She also said the sulfur levels (so4) with a organic potting medium isn't something to worry about????It is like 20 times the amount recommended, but she said sodium is my main problem ATM.

I also called Malibu compost and asked them if they had issues with sulfur and sodium. He did admit on occasion they do have high sodium, but was able to pull up the soil test done on my exact compost they had done before they sold it......medium high levels of sodium, low levels of sulfur. He convinced me on the quality of his product, they even log what the cows eat and he went into detail on all this.

Long story short, I have no idea where it came from, but it does't look like it came from the compost.

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Old 08-21-2014, 11:09 PM #147
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Not sure I want to lower my Na?
High Na will displace more important goodies like just like K will. A friend in CO has basically the same soil mix in two segments of his garden. One patch is doing noticeably better and the main difference was Spectrum Extra for one spot and Spectrum in the other. Gary R was like...you've got Na in you're water...and the reason the Spectrum Extra patch is doing so much better.

If you go back through the Big Plant thread here I'm sure you'll find some posts by Tom about him monitoring sap Na levels and why that's important. He might have posted that info on another forum yet don't think so. I do remember chatting with him about adjusting the ORP value of teas with H2O2 yet he never finished that conversation.
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P.S. Pissed I spent extra money on "bio-dynamic" compost. Should have gone with diestel compost like boobs suggested.
Compost, like worm castings, is basically GIGO.
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Cali, just saw your rep about high sulfur being good - but when the soil test suggests 70-200ppm and you're sitting at over 3000, that's a big difference! Not sure what the effect of that much will be, by molar weight that's something like 1000ppm pure sulfur.

My SeaShield came - it's enough to knock a buzzard off a shitwagon. Makes Neptune's Harvest and Alaska Fish smell like perfume. Hopefully it will do its job. What's y'alls application rates of SeaShield? Pamphlets were in the qt/acre measurement - I opted for 2T/1oz per gallon of foliar spray.
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I'm loving the result from every organic bottle at 1ml a gal with the exception of rejuvenate at 2. I apply this once a week lightly, just enough to dampen the surface of the soil. I then water this in with ph'd water to make sure I don't burn my plants and let it be absorbed by all the roots. Never seen my full season garden lookin so well.

I was told that someone has had great success using them all at 2ml per gal as well.

Dep garden is finsishing with my best yields and quality. The sales rep wasn't lying when he said the trichomes won't oxidize. 64 days and most trichs are clear, buds are still gaining considerable mass. Noticing a definite increase in essential oils and loudness.
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I use 1oz per gallon of most the stuff you guys are listing 2 on Rejuv

That's based on 1 and 2 Qt per acre with 30 gal:acre as what it takes to cover 1 Ac
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When I root drench monthly I use the same rates.
Most of this talk took place on page 7. Milky also posted up a veggie fertilizer recomandation amounts earlier in the thread. Hope this helps.
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