[milkyjoe]

Hopefully I did not come off that way. I fully respect your choice. Just be careful with the tainio stuff...read the labels.

Oh yeah BD, I think we're all on the same page! I think for the most part I'd trust organic growers over traditional AG, especially when buying my food. The problem is both schools of thought are full of unthinking people who go with the flow. I appreciate people like Kempf who look at the details and forge their own path.

Just got off the phone with AEA, 1 gallon of Sea Shield is on its way to my door. They're super friendly and helpful over there.

Now do I hear you guys saying use 1cc per gallon for most of these products? That's something like 3700 gallons of spray per gallon, and at $17/gallon that's something ridiculous like $.004 cents a gallon.

Originally Posted by Luther Burbank

Now do I hear you guys saying use 1cc per gallon for most of these products?

Depends on the product. Up to 1 oz/gal on some for foliar applications.

[xmobotx]

I'm using 1/4 tsp ea of pepzyme & spectrum to 4 gallons of water

is that in the ball park?

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due to Rejuvenate being unstable, has anyone tried making their own? on the msds it lists the ingredients (I'm assuming in order of highest to lowest) water, leonardite, magnesium chloride (sea water), molasses, yucca, and seaweed. I'm assuming there is some form of microbes in there as well because of it blowing up but couldn't be sure. just curious. some said that the recipe was tweaked so it was more stable but still has some issues. I was thinking of ordering products but I would not want to have 1/8 to 1/4 missing. then I can just use the rest of the product line. Thanks!

The ingredients are all simple enough, but it looks to be one of those things where the whole is more than the sum of its parts. I doubt we're gonna be able to make that in the kitchen.

I figured that there is something special in there that makes it better than something you can make yourself. I want to get photomag, pepzyme, and sea shield for starters. I have products already to substitute for the other stuff till I run out and will buy the remaining products instead.

[Bulldog420]

Well, when you guys are right, your right. Got my soil and water tests back. From what I can tell, the water is perfect. PH could be down a bit but no cause for concern. Most PPM comes from calcuim and mg. Sounds good to me.


Now here is where you guys being right comes into play. I was warned that steer manure can be high is salts......Also, why are my organic levels low? 33% compost in that mix, seems low to me.



I would love it if everybody could chime in on what products I should be using from AEA. Looks to me like I don't need much besides calcium, problem is the high salt levels. Should I steer clear of products like sea shield? Please help a brother out.......


P.S. Pissed I spent extra money on "bio-dynamic" compost. Should have gone with diestel compost like boobs suggested.

Edit: I also need rock minerals, but how much? How do I apply? Can I just top dress or should I add to my teas?

[Calidude]

Great thread, very informative!