[Ez Rider]

If you're following my current BOG grow(https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=281419), alot of this will be familiar. If not... welcome. I'll be growing out cuts from several BOG seeds. I took these cuts from plants that are flowering now. I've got Sourbubble, Sourlifesaver, Bogbubble, and Blue Moon Rocks. I've got 1-2 cuts from various pheno's from each strain. The cuts are 6-12" tall, in 6" square pots. They are currently in a mix of perlite and pro-mix hp. I'm feeding them Grow Big and Liquid Karma. They are quite well rooted...I'd pot them up now if I had somewhere to put them.

Currently, lighting is provided by T-5's. I will be moving them under 1K hps's in about a week. I'll veg them for 2-3 weeks under the 1K's. I'll be growing in a 4x8 tent, with (2)-1K's for lighting. I'll provide more detail on the tent when I actually get the plants into it. At the moment, the veg is going on in a 2x4 tray.

This will be an all organic grow. When I pot up the plants in a week or so, I'll be using LC's #2, along with blood, bone, and kelp meal, plus powdered lime. I'm hoping to get by with just water for the entire grow, but I've got PBP and some earthjuice laying around just in case.

I'm also hoping to add blumats and a gravity res for flowering, but $$ may not permit.

Given the timeframe of the contest, I should be done with both the grow and smoke report before the judging. Also, there will be the smoke report from my current grow. I'll be up to me elbows in BOG bud soon.

Here's how the veg is looking at the moment:


Anyways, I wanted to get my contest thread going. I'll be back with an update when I pot up. Hopefully by the middle of next week

[Ez Rider]

I was able to get the girls moved up to 3.6gal pots this weekend, and move them from the t-5 to the hps. The sour bubbles and bogbubbles were very well rooted...this is a good example...


The sourlifesavers, and the bmr's weren't as nicely rooted, even though they are the larger plants and go through water more quickly. I did'n think to get a pic, but the root mass was about half of that shown by the sb's and bb's. I transplanted them into LC's #2(pro-mix, perlite, and worm poo @ a 60/20/20 ratio). I added 1/2c each blood and kelp meal, and 1c each bone meal and powdered lime per cu.ft. of mix. I watered with un ph'ed RO water, with 1tbsp/gal liquid karma to get things going. From here on out this will be a no feed/water only grow. I do have some PBP in reserve, just in case. Trying to keep this run as organic/simple as possible.

My flowering room is a 4x8 tent. Actual dimensions are more like 5x9. I've got (2) 1000w Hps lamps in adjust-a-wing mediums. I run (1) 6" max fan, with a can66 for exhaust, and another 6" max fan with a dustshroom for intake. I've also got (1) 16" fan for air movement.

The plants have been under the 1K's for 2 days now, and show every sign of loving it. All but the sb's are nice and bushy already, and the sb's are getting there. I'll start topping for clones/yield in 1 week, hopefully be flowering in less than 3. I may have to run some sort of trellis as I look set to be growing some real bushes this time. These clones are about 1 month out of the rooting dome:


Sls and bb on the outsides, sb in the middle. Looking pretty damn good I think Here's a pic from week 7, just after topping on my seed grow for comparison...


I've ditched the 12/1 veg cycle I used for the seeds, and went back to 18/6. The plants grow ALOT faster this way, and seem happier in general. The 12/1 was an interesting experiment, but nothing I'd try again. Also, the sb's will be multi-branched this time. Last run, I FIM'ed all the plants, with mostly good results. The sb's not only remained single stalked, the FIM'ing really seemed to piss them off. This time I topped all the plants by removing the top 2 nodes. All the strains seem to respond better to this technique. I'm giving the plants a few more days to establish themselves, then I will begin spreading out the branches by tying them down(especially the sb, which is very compact). If all goes well, they should be nicely bushed out and ready for a topping in a week.

I'll be back next week with an update...Any questions, just ask.

[hestah]

Nice grow you've got going Ez Rider. It'll be intersting to follow you on this. Good luck and happy growing!

[Granger2]

Ez,
I'm sure you've already said how many plants you have in your 4x8, but I can't find it by skimming. How many? Very interested in following the progress of your soil. Great start. -granger

[Ez Rider]

Originally Posted by hestah

Nice grow you've got going Ez Rider. It'll be intersting to follow you on this. Good luck and happy growing!

Thanks I'm still in the process of drying/curing the parent grow, but my hopes are high. I'm honestly already looking forward to the 3rd and 4th runs, when I'm actually able to grow only the best 2 or 3 phenos, and ditch the rest. Lack of space is forcing me to piggyback rather than keep mothers...for now.

Originally Posted by Granger2

Ez,
I'm sure you've already said how many plants you have in your 4x8, but I can't find it by skimming. How many? Very interested in following the progress of your soil. Great start. -granger

Actually, I didn't say. I'll be running 9 plants per light once i begin flowering. It may turn out to be less because the others will probably get super bushy while I'm bushing out the sb's. The sb's grow quite a bit slower than the others. The sls in particular, grows very fast once it gets going. I'm hoping that the sb's superior root mass will help offset this. They should root into the LC's like crazy, it's a very nice mix. I really believe that lack of root mass was a major limiting factor on the parent grow...and they still mostly did pretty well. Some of the plants got too tall last time, forcing me to flower before I wanted to. This time, I will be aggressively topping and pruning to prevent this. I want to get the sb's big and bushy, and I can use all the tops for the next go around.

Still hoping to get the blumats before I flower, but I'm hemorrhaging money at the moment.

[tleaf jr.]

[BushyOldGrower]

You are doing a fine job EZ...

Good Luck! . Bog

[Payaso]

I like this thread, I am subbed!

[Ez Rider]

Sorry for the long delay. Between wrapping up one crop/getting the next off the ground, and coping with a dying ac system, I've been a little busy. My ac started to go just after I put the plants under the 1K's...of course. During the hottest parts of the day, I was running 90F+. I was in the high 80's all the time(lights on) and at least mid 70's lights off. I wasted a week waiting for a part that didn't solve my problem. The plants themselves did pretty well with the heat. They showed some stress for a few days, but then took right to it. I broke down and bought a new ac system, and put it in this wednesday, as I couldn't stand it anymore. I'm now running mid-high 70's lights on and high 60's to low 70's lights off. Strangely enough, a few plants are now showing what I believe is stress from the lower temps. The ac has only been running for 4 on/off cycles, so I'm hoping to see them recover soon.

I decided to top all the plants again. I toped them once, while they were still in 6" pots, to make them multi-branched. This time I was going for clones, but also to bush them out for yield. The sourbubble in particular, will remain compact unless you top it aggressively. I concentrated on sourbubble and bogbubble for cuttings, but I aggressively toped them all. My cuts are standing up in the dome and looking good.

Here's how the sb's and bb's looked before I topped them. This would have been day 12 under the 1K's:
Here's how they looked 1 day later, after a good haircut:

Now, here's a pic of what I believe are temperature stressed plants(sls and bmr). They did this immediately after I got the new ac up and running, and the temps DOWN. A lot of these same plants got upset when the temps initially soared too. You can see. it's mainly the middle plants in this tray, most of the perimeter plants are fine. The temp drop had no visible effect on the sourbubble, and only 1 bogbubble pheno got mildly upset.

I believe I'm having trouble with keeping the pots PROPERLY watered, but this always seems to be a problem for me. Still hoping I can swing the funds to go with the blumats. I'm wondering: with this mix I'm using(LC's#2), should I be watering until I see a little runoff, then letting it dry? Or should I be trying to maintain a moisture level? I'm positive I stunted the root systems by overwatering in veg last time, and I don't want to repeat that mistake. My superoots pots breathe and drain WAY better than any plastic grow bag, and that should help. Still, I really need to up my watering skill, and/or get something that handles it for me(blumats)

Plants are 12-18", and I'm hoping to go into flower late this month. Stay tuned, the updates should be more regular now...I hope.

I'm not completely sold on this water-only method...yet, but the plants seem to be growing pretty well, and the ease of using nothing but plain, un-ph'ed RO water can't be beat. I'd LOVE to hear some of the organic guru's sound off about my grow...

[Granger2]

Concerning soil, they look good and healthy. So...so far it's working well. If you have to help the soil along in bloom it's still be easier. -granger