[wallywombat]

gday gday ,

so i have a family friend who lived in macedonia his whole life, eastern Europe does anybody know of the weed that grows wild there is everywhere grows big from what i hear it doesn't sound like Ruderalis any information anyone has if anyone wants to share would be wonderful !

[Thule]

Macedonia is culturally and geographically tied to Bulgaria so the landrace is probably very similar.

The plants can be considered a giant ruderalis and they're mostly descendant from industrial hemp that was grown there until the last world war and beyond. High CBD.



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[Only Ornamental]

Originally Posted by Thule

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The plants can be considered a giant ruderalis and they're mostly descendant from industrial hemp that was grown there until the last world war and beyond...

Are you sure it's not plain and simple C. sativa L. (or Hillig)? Okay, it'll be most certainly considered a rudi in toker taxonomy...
Given the remoteness and low population density in some regions there it may well be truly wild hemp (if that still exists in Europe) or at least a mix with feral fibre hemp...

[Thule]

Originally Posted by Only Ornamental

Are you sure it's not plain and simple C. sativa L. (or Hillig)? Okay, it'll be most certainly considered a rudi in toker taxonomy...
Given the remoteness and low population density in some regions there it may well be truly wild hemp (if that still exists in Europe) or at least a mix with feral fibre hemp...

Technically that's probably what it is. They haven't really reached a consensus on what populations are "real ruderalis" so the term can imo be used to loosely describe all feral cannabis sativa populations. Without gene tests it's impossible to say which ones are the source populations and which ones escaped cultivars. These are most likely escaped cultivars possibly mixed with an existing wild population. They autoflower too which I think is crucial for a rudy.

[Only Ornamental]

Originally Posted by Thule

...Without gene tests it's impossible to say which ones are the source populations and which ones escaped cultivars. These are most likely escaped cultivars possibly mixed with an existing wild population. They autoflower too which I think is crucial for a rudy.

So far, genetic and other analyses haven't accomplished to discriminate C. sativa from C. cf. ruderalis . I suppose the autoflowering trait is one of the best 'markers' for what we call 'ruderalis'. On contrary, why would a plant growing at 41-42°N be autoflowering? I have no clue if feral hemp from south-east Europe has a photoperiod... just wondering.

[Thule]

Originally Posted by Only Ornamental

So far, genetic and other analyses haven't accomplished to discriminate C. sativa from C. cf. ruderalis . I suppose the autoflowering trait is one of the best 'markers' for what we call 'ruderalis'. On contrary, why would a plant growing at 41-42°N be autoflowering? I have no clue if feral hemp from south-east Europe has a photoperiod... just wondering.

Beats me. Perhaps it's a part of the package when reverting to the wild form. They flower at two months age regardles of photoperiod, but they aren't exactly fast flowering.

[oldchuck]

I suspect there is no such thing as truly wild Cannabis anywhere on earth.

[konopenko]

Well you should ask our Macedonian brothers how are they connected with Bulgarians ..when Serbs liberated them from Bulgaria heh they waited them with old Slav tradition - Леб и сол.

If there is any foregin influence on Macedonian landrace-must be from Albania.

Originally Posted by Thule

Macedonia is culturally and geographically tied to Bulgaria so the landrace is probably very similar.

The plants can be considered a giant ruderalis and they're mostly descendant from industrial hemp that was grown there until the last world war and beyond. High CBD.

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[orfeas]

Originally Posted by konopenko

Well you should ask our Macedonian brothers how are they connected with Bulgarians ..when Serbs liberated them from Bulgaria heh they waited them with old Slav tradition - Леб и сол.

If there is any foregin influence on Macedonian landrace-must be from Albania.

They're nothing but Slavs, no matter how hard they try to call themselves "Macedonians"...

[Only Ornamental]

Please, keep it civilised! There has been enough bloodshed, civil war, and violation of human rights in the last two decade to last for the next two hundred years. And most importantly, there still remain too many 'unavenged' blood feuds, hurt national pride, and religious conflicts and we really don't need to rub salt in these not so old and not truly healed wounds!
It's neither about actual political borders, ethnic groups, nor religions but geography, agricultural history, and how cannabis/hemp has been cultivated and spread amongst nations past.